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strange border-bug
fwordboy




msg:1589993
 3:28 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

Has anyone else noticed Firefox acting strange?
favicons disappearing after a session, near-constant broswer window changing from maximized to minimized. Constant forgetting of usernames and passwords.
and now I a page I've been designing using a central containing div doesn't show the the first px of the border-right!


#holder{
width: 80%;
margin: 0;
border: 1px solid #036;
border-width: 0 1px;
background: #FFF;
position: relative;
top: 0;
left: 10%;
text-align: center;
}

N.B. please don't tell me simply use margin: 0 auto; or whatever, the reason for the text-alignment is for IE. with the code above I firefox shows this equivalent boder-width: 0 0 0 1px; If i up the ante to border-width: 0 2px or 0 4px; Firefox will show border-width: 0 1px 0 2px or 0 3px 0 4px;

screenshot:
[doubleonegative.com ]

 

Nunzio390




msg:1589994
 3:40 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

Are you using latest Firefox version 0.8?
I am and have no problems at all, insofar as favicons disappearing after a session, near-constant broswer window changing from maximized to minimized, constant forgetting of usernames and passwords. No problems of that type at all for me.

Insofar as your div not showing the the first pixel of border-right... of course it could be something else in your page coding, but there's no way for me to tell without seeing all the code.

Also... have you installed any "dodgy" extensions in Firefox?

Try disabling extensions (if you have any) one at a time, to determine if one or more is dodgy...

Tools > Options > Extensions > Disable extension

Shoggoth




msg:1589995
 4:20 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

If you installed Firefox over a previous installation of Firefox or Firebird, you may run into all sorts of bizarre problems such as the ones you listed (for me, I would never see scrollbars among other oddities).

So if that's the case, copy out your bookmarks file, wipe the profile, make a new one, copy in your bookmarks, enjoy fast and pop-up free browsing.

Cheers.

ergophobe




msg:1589996
 4:31 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)


favicons disappearing after a session

Often and inconsistently. Some are highly persistent and others are not.


near-constant broswer window changing from maximized to minimized.

No. It jumps terribly when scrolling, but it doesn't resize per se.


Constant forgetting of usernames and passwords.

The password manager for Fire* is terrible. Many logins that work fine in Mozilla, IE and Opera do not work in Firefox and Firebird. There's a lot of Bugzilla talk on these issues. The one that plagues me the most is that, unlike the other browsers, Fire* only accepts logins of the form
username
password

If it's

password
username

you're out of luck. If you look in your passwords list, you'll see that these are never properly entered, so they *are* remembered, they are just remebered incorrectly.

Fire* is my favorite browsers, but it's definitely not up to version 1.0 standards yet. Unfortunately, some of the issues with it go back to Mozilla .4 and are still on the bug list.


have you installed any "dodgy" extensions in Firefox?

Just the Googlebar


If you installed Firefox over a previous installation of Firefox or Firebird

Nope. Followed the instructions for uninstalling Firebird before installing Firefix.

Tom

fwordboy




msg:1589997
 6:21 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

... of course it could be something else in your page coding, but there's no way for me to tell without seeing all the code.

I'm aware of this however it shows up fine in Opera and IE and so I figure its a firefox bug. Coincidentally the bug isn't evident on my home version of Firefox but my version @ work.

As far ads the other problems go, I don't have any extensions, (except Red orbit theme) and i don't have firebird 0.7 on my pc.

I understand that Firefox is still not at 1.0 stage but in some areas I think the quality has dipped from 0.7 to 0.8, for all its little faults i still love it.

asquithea




msg:1589998
 6:55 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

The favicons thing is an ongoing problem, but not regarded as one that needs fixing with any urgency.

I've never had a problem with minimise/maximize, so I can only suggest installing a newer nightly build with a clean profile and program files directory. Check BurningEdge for more details.

I've not really noticed a problem with the password manager, but I've seen complaints now and again, so I'm willing to believe there's an issue for you. As far as I know, there hasn't been any recent work in that area.

With the borders thing, you should check against a newer nightly and the 0.8 release, and if you've still got problems, drop into the Mozillazine support forums with the URL for an example page. There are lots of people like me who will be willing to pick your page apart to find the cause of the problem. ;-)

ergophobe




msg:1589999
 7:53 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)


There are lots of people like me who will be willing to pick your page apart to find the cause of the problem. ;-)

Not to hijack the thread from the original poster... My pages all work fine in Firefox, but it's my default browser, so that's to be expected. It's when surfing the internet that I have problems.

When I do have a problem on one of my own pages where the code is good and valid, I go to Bugzilla and so far there has always been an open bug on the issue, so I just let it drop there.

It is disturbing sometimes though. I wish I could remember the bug that I came across recently, but it was a basic incorrect implementation of a basic feature. The bug has been open since Mozilla 0.4 with no fix in sight and lots and lots of complaints about it. I do notice significant improvements with each version and expect that the final 1.01 (I'm a pessimist) version will be pretty solid.

Tom

mivox




msg:1590000
 8:01 pm on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

I installed the newest Firefox/Mac on my PowerBook... love it. Haven't had any problems except for ignoramus webmasters who put IE-or-Netscape-Only browser sniffers on their sites.

trigger




msg:1590001
 3:28 am on May 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

[quote] The favicons thing is an ongoing problem, but not regarded as one that needs fixing with any urgency. [quote]

Would it be possible to 'hardcod' in the config or wherever, the favicon.png for said bookmark? i know this wouldent update a sites favicon if it changed but i think its a welcome improvement over haveing generic icons show 2/3 of the time?

I dont know much programming but if someone gave me a head-start on a relevent config file? or would this currently have to be done as a source change (maybe why i havent seen any fix's floating around)

In case im comeing off as a bit nit picky i love the browser, and yes i do agree tracking down a memory leak takes precedence over cute icons for the toolbar but hey ;0

encyclo




msg:1590002
 12:55 pm on May 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've used Fire* as my main browser since 0.6, and the favicons have never really worked properly. The only one which disappears systematically each session is the WebmasterWorld one, though.

The biggest problem is with favicons for password-protected sites which use basic authenication - such as many cPanel ones: when you click on the dropdown list which contains such a bookmark, the authorization dialog box appears even if you don't select (or want to visit) the site in question. It makes me wonder whether Firefox is connecting to every site in the bookmarks list to retrieve the favicon each time! (I assume that in fact the favicon is somehow stored in the cache, but still password-protected, but I'm never sure!)

Firefox is a good browser, but they have a lot of these kind of bugs to clear up before it merits a version 1.0 designation. I would never recommend it to non-technical users until I was sure it was ready - it is called a "Technology Preview" by Mozilla themselves, and I can't understand why they want to promote a clearly unfinished project until more work is done.

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