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FIREFOX: Now with PageRank!
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HyperGeek

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Msg#: 392 posted 5:35 pm on Jul 12, 2004 (gmt 0)


After downloading the FireFox Googlebar (Download [update.mozilla.org]), I was viewing the "help" menu and came across two PageRank extensions.

The first one wasn't very good and incorporated itself into the Googlebar. However, the second is a GEM!

The following extension will display a small PageRank meter in the bottom right-hand corner of your FF browser (exactly like the one featured on the official Google Toolbar).

Download it here! [pagerankstatus.mozdev.org]

It's non-intrusive and works perfectly. The only question that I have concerns the privacy issues that comes with activating the "advanced" version of the Google Toolbar (which includes the PR bar, but has you agree to certain Terms Of Service).

 

skippy

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Msg#: 392 posted 5:43 pm on Jul 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Nice find. Now I just have to get use to looking in the bottom corner.

kaled

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Msg#: 392 posted 6:54 pm on Jul 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes, the PR indicator is nice but it requires FF 0.9 so I downloaded and installed it...... I hate seeing things get worse. The icons on 0.8 were nicer, I liked the animation top right on 0.8 but worst of all, 0.9 opens in geological time. It takes four times as long to load compared to IE. OK, so I'm using an old and slow computer, but that ain't right.

My guess - 0.9 stores more data in the registry - that really slows things down!

Kaled.

asquithea

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Msg#: 392 posted 7:04 pm on Jul 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Actually, I felt that 0.9 was faster than 0.8 -- I just upgraded for the same reason as you.

I agree with you that the new theme is pretty horrible, but the old one and many others are still available for download. I don't like the mess of stuff in the status bar, either, but I'm hoping that might get better in the next few months.

The pagerank extension is indeed nifty, and works as expected.

claus

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Msg#: 392 posted 9:09 pm on Jul 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Oh, is this Google going open source?

Just kidding of course, but i have noticed their recent discussions/statements in this direction, so i hope they will let the OSS community keep this one, even though it appears to be an example of reverse engineering.

The benefit is, of course, that this is not Firefox only, it should be trivial to implement for all kinds of odd browsers if you are into browser development. IOW it saves the Google engineers some work and gets their product out on platforms they don't care/wish to support themselves.

Leosghost

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Msg#: 392 posted 12:04 am on Jul 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

how do you get it active ..I've got the pagerank icon sitting in bottom right here while I look at the page of this thread ..Page rank says zero from ten ..Sorry Brett!..
How do we get it to show something?

Now I am confused ..I went to googles landing search page ..and the page bar goes green all the way and shows ten from ten ..I come back here and its white and zero from ten again?

Ahh I'm getting this now ..the recent posts page is ranked seven from ten ..so I should have got some sleep last night ....Sorry ...dumbear..

CritterNYC

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Msg#: 392 posted 4:36 am on Jul 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes, the PR indicator is nice but it requires FF 0.9 so I downloaded and installed it...... I hate seeing things get worse. The icons on 0.8 were nicer, I liked the animation top right on 0.8 but worst of all, 0.9 opens in geological time. It takes four times as long to load compared to IE. OK, so I'm using an old and slow computer, but that ain't right.

My guess - 0.9 stores more data in the registry - that really slows things down!

Kaled.

If you installed 0.9 without fully uninstalling 0.8 you can end up with issues including slow-downs. A clean install can solve most of those.

[forums.mozillazine.org...]

kaled

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Msg#: 392 posted 10:03 am on Jul 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ok, I uninstalled 0.9, reinstalled 0.8 (wouldn't work though) uninstalled 0.8, and reinstalled 0.9 (pagerank thingy still there!) and it still takes 10 seconds to load compared with IE taking 2-3 seconds (that's directly after closing so that everything that can be cached is cached).

So it's still takes 4 times as long to load as IE. Like I said, I'm using an old computer, but that is not good. I'm sure most computers in use today are closer to my spec than a brand new spec. Also, I keep my machine ultra-clean so it pretty much runs as fast as possible (and I'm running Win2000 at the moment which is considerably faster than XP).

Also, if uninstallation is required before upgrading, notification should be given.

Kaled.

Leosghost

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Msg#: 392 posted 11:28 am on Jul 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Kaled.. ..I think you may have 1Kb temp files "breeding behind the scenes" with your install ..check out with "search for new files created today" ( or whatever it's called on the English language versions of your 'doze..mine's in French and I forgot :)..if you've got a whole slew of 1kb temps associated to Firefox ..go get "clean up" ( free and clean - non virii nor spyware laden etc ) ..run it each time you log off your machine ..it 'll bring you upto speed again and clean your other caches and get rid if the 'doze gids ..

isitreal

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Msg#: 392 posted 3:24 pm on Jul 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

it's still takes 4 times as long to load as IE

It takes 4 times longer because IE is already started as more or less an internal process when windows starts, that's one of the reasons IE is intrinsically more insecure than a standalone browser like Firefox or Opera.

When you start firefox, you are starting a complete standalone program. But how many times per computer session do you need to turn this on? One should do it, then with tabs you just add more pages to your single interface.

kaled

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Msg#: 392 posted 4:56 pm on Jul 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I think we're more than a little off-topic here - my fault.

Yes, there is some truth that IE is faster to start because it's half-open already. But that's not the whole story I'm sure. Bare in mind the IExpore is a different process to Explorer and whilst shared DLLs don't need to be physically loaded, they do need to initialise.

I checked temporary files - no problem there. Also checked for vast tracts of data in the registry - only a quick check but didn't find anything excessive.

Maybe if I'm bored I'll dig up Regmon and FileMon and see what's going on.

Kaled.

JayC

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Msg#: 392 posted 6:35 pm on Jul 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

>> how do you get it active ..I've got the pagerank icon sitting in bottom right here while I look at the page of this thread ..Page rank says zero from ten ..Sorry Brett!..

This page hasn't been spidered yet, and so it doesn't have a PageRank -- on the regular Google toolbar for IE, it shows a blank "grayed out" PR bar.

So what do you see when you visit a page that actually has a PageRank? Say this one [webmasterworld.com], which should show a PR7.

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