| 1:11 pm on Jul 14, 2004 (gmt 0)|
It's certainly going to be an interesting one to watch. Up until recently I believe that there was a large amount of ignorance regarding browser options within the "normal surfer" community.
With the mainstream attention in the media and now newletters from non-IT sources (like Tedsters doctor contact) there will be more attention put on the likes of Mozilla and Opera.
The question is will people read and change browser or jsut read and continue as they are?
If we begin to see a significant shift away from IE browser towards Mozilla (and lets not forget Opera) then this may well have an impact on the way we develop sites. Many people tend to concentrate on IE (which as a business decision is not without fault - cater for the masses), but if Mozilla and Opera start to come to the fore new techniques that have been avoided may now get more airing...
| 8:13 am on Jul 15, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Well, it sure is happening, and with a bit of rush, and it has thrown my processes into disarray. I was pleased a few years ago when Netscape died (pretty much). It halved my workload basically.
I have now switched to Firefox after spending several days cleansing my toxified system from IE incursions, and realised once again, I have to do double the work to publish any site. Not happy really. I hated MS owning the browser marketplace to some extent, but damn it simplified the process for developers.
I even had deliberate poor coding on my own site so that if anyone browsed it from Netscape (4.xx) it looked like crap and they wouldn't ask me to work on their site. I know some of you will despise me for that, and I'm sorry, but NS4 was an awful thing and like game developers explaining why it makes no economic sense to develop ports of their games for Mac/*nix environments, I can only offer the same explanation.
But now, here I am spending hours pouring through forums trying to find out how to minimise the painfull differences in Moz5/IE6 page rendering. And can I charge my clients any more? Not easily.
| 10:25 am on Jul 15, 2004 (gmt 0)|
This may sound stupid but it's the way I develop: work to standards first (which pretty much guarentees Gecko/Opera/Safari) and then debug for IE6. At first glance in looks backwards as IE6 is your biggest client, but I find it a lot quicker.
| 12:34 pm on Jul 15, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Ditto what Robin says; didn't understand until I tried it! ;)
| 12:41 pm on Jul 15, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Robin_reala, that's exactly what I do - and others here as well.
It is a much faster development cycle. I used to be fearful of standards mode and always write to quirks mode. But after I became fluent with standards (not as bad a lerning curve as I thought) and then had a few of the main IE issues understood, I found I could generate templates and pages the fastest I ever had.
When I see a healthcare newsletter giving their clients advice to switch away from IE, however, it's not about the author's development cycle. He really cares about people and he sees the security issues as important to his clients' overall well being.
| 11:25 pm on Jul 15, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I've started adding links to Firefox in my forum signatures. I also recommend it to friends. It's only by word of mouth that Firefox will pick up a noticeable market share.
| 1:25 am on Jul 16, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Wow. Ted, that's pretty amazing!