| 12:42 pm on Jul 13, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Wow! It's like Scotty just kicked it into warp speed, thanks guys!
| 9:32 pm on Feb 4, 2005 (gmt 0)|
With all the recent publicity around Firefox, I thought this thread deserved a bump back into active status.
Thanks again to MatthewHSE for the helpful instructions.
| 9:52 pm on Feb 4, 2005 (gmt 0)|
OK, in Version 1.0 I could only find 3 of those 5 settings:
|1.) network.http.pipelining |
So I changed #1, #3, #4 but didn't see the other two.
Pages load surprisingly faster. I think when people talk about how fast Firefox is, they must mean with these tweaks in place.
Thanks for the tip!
| 9:58 pm on Feb 4, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Since the time this thread was initially created, FireFox has gone up a couple versions and at least one setting in my first post has changed.
nglayout.initialpaint.delay is no longer included as a default preference in
It still works, however, if you create it yourself. To create this setting:
- Go to
- Right-click in the preferences list, point to "New," then select "Integer."
- At the first prompt, type
- At the second prompt, set the value. I set mine to 0, but others have reported better results with 125 or the default of 250.
As mentioned later on in the thread, setting
network.http.sendRefererHeader to 0 can help quite a lot as well, though it can cause problems in very rare instances.
| 9:38 am on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
cool - all well and good, other than I need to use my firefox like my visitors to my site use it, so I won't be increasing my speed :)
| 10:26 am on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Turning off referer will mean if you come to WW from Google, it won't highlight your keywords. While I like making it faster, it definitely overrides what a browser is supposed to do. Hmm, choices choices.
One question, if you add the pipeline.firstrequest, will it help or it only helps for install that have it there?
| 1:32 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Another recycled thread from months ago?
Turning off referer is perfectly safe. I have yet to find a site that has issues with it. Occasionally there is incorrect referer blocking on images, and I let the site owner know they have to allow for blank referers since alot of personal firewalls block them anyway. By the way you have to turn off https (ssl) referer's under a seperate setting (again, I've yet to find problems with this).
For those that want the cutting edge in Firefox speed, also try a MOOX build [moox.ws] which is especially compiled for certain CPU's. There is a noticable speed boost. Basically you unzip the moox files right over your firefox folder, while all your settings are kept intact. If you don't like it, just install the regular build back over it.
For those that want to see just how long its taking the pages and objects to download, try this nifty obscure "lori" extension [lori.mozdev.org] that adds page timing like opera does to the status bar.
| 1:48 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
It's v. strange why Mozilla does not demonstrate it's "killer" features with the default install:
- multiple homepages through tabs
- Pipeline enabling
- All tabs enabled
- Google as SE through URL bar
- Mouse wheel settings
- Modern Skin
It's a marketing error on their part as very few users discover these features.
| 2:00 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Thanks MatthewHSE and everyone else for your hints - really helpful.
I love FireFox and the only major problem I have with it is downloading big files and the way it completely slows everything else down. Anyone else have this same problem? Any tweaks?
| 2:27 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|One question, if you add the pipeline.firstrequest, will it help or it only helps for install that have it there? |
To tell the truth, I don't think first requests even can be pipelined, though when it was still a preference I always set it to "true" just in case. I never noticed any performance boost from this one, but included it in the initial post in case it could be useful on some systems or something. Frankly, I doubt adding the preference will do anything for you.
I'll add my vote to that of amznVibe for the "lori" extension. Strangely enough I just installed it yesterday; very nice functionality.
| 2:39 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|the only major problem I have with it is downloading big files and the way it completely slows everything else down. Anyone else have this same problem? Any tweaks? |
Install the "download with" and/or "launchy" extensions and use getright as the downloader instead. Vasty superior. I am sure some of the other downloading agents can be used as well and some of them are free.
Also noteworthy is the "Disable Targets For Downloads" extension.
ps. After using "Lori" for awhile it is kind of too beta to use. Takes up too much status bar and can't be toggled. I am now trying Extended Statusbar 1.0 [extensionsmirror.nl] instead (update apparently it can't be toggled either - looks like I'll have to hack some features in).
Oh and I just can't resist since I was so happy to find it, even thought it's not a performance enhancement - since they took away the stylesheet changer from the preview to final release, this person has made a stylesheet switcher extension [olab.free.fr]
| 4:57 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I enabled pipelining months ago, and while it has vastly improved rendering speed, I have noticed the following recurring glitches, that are likely a part of the reason why it isn't enabled by default:
1: On PHP or CGI "generated" pages, it has a habit of breaking down from time to time on the tables. Tables either end up becoming 100% in width or height, which can really mess with the layout of a page. It's not a "permanent" error and can usually be fixed by refreshing the page.
2. Similar problem with CSS based layouts. For some reason, it gets relative and absolute positions messed up, and you can end up with different elements rendering "on top" of one another, most often with footer elements. The most extreme example I've seen of this is having three text blocks render on top of each other. Again, this is most likely to occur with PHP or CGI/Perl generated pages, and can usually be fixed by refreshing the page.
These are occasional errors, and I suspect somewhat dependant on how the pages are encoded. PHP generated pages seem to create the errors most often, say about 1 in 100 rendered pages. (And no, I haven't run any hard statistcal tests, 1 in 100 is just a guess)
Also, certain servers are not configure to handle pipelining. If the page is being served from an IIS server, fuggetaboutit.
| 5:10 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I've noticed a few of those errors you mention, but nowhere near 1 out of 100 pageviews. But then, it may depend on connection speed, or even varying processor speeds.
|Also, certain servers are not configure to handle pipelining. If the page is being served from an IIS server, fuggetaboutit. |
Actually, I've found that IIS handles pipelining just fine, most of the time. There are a few sites I've seen where it doesn't work well, but on the whole it seems okay to me.
| 5:21 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I didn't find following setting in my browser
| 6:05 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
See message #34 above, from MatthewHSE
| 6:53 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I've had pipelining enabled since the early days of Mozilla...NEVER had any trouble with any page on any site...some my own sites are in PHP & CSS, and no issues.
| 7:27 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
As far as turning the referral headers off, one immediate consequence is that Webmaster World redirects you to a member login page instead of the forum page you're looking for.
Probably other similar episodes would occur as well.
| 8:15 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|As far as turning the referral headers off, one immediate consequence is that Webmaster World redirects you to a member login page instead of the forum page you're looking for. |
Try logging in once and see what happens. I haven't had any problems like that.
| 9:36 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Is there any reason why these wouldn't be the default settings? |
Because it will hit the server harder.
| 11:11 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Doesn't this go against some http standard or other?
no more than 3 concurrent requests
- or am I confused?
| 11:27 pm on Feb 5, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Doesn't this go against some http standard or other? |
No, because HTTP standard limits number of concurrent connections to a web server to a maximum of 2, where as pipelining uses same connection to request more than one object at the same time, and then receive a bunch of responses rather than request and receive for each of those objects separately.
| 4:37 am on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Thank YOu for quick & to point reply,
Have a nice time
| 6:38 am on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Great thread. FWIW, about:config is also available for those living fossils such as myself who still use Netscape. I made the pipelining changes and things do seem faster, although I have only done brief testing so far.
| 5:32 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|As far as turning the referral headers off, one immediate consequence is that Webmaster World redirects you to a member login page |
No such problem here. You sure you didn't do something extra that blocked cookies?
| 9:35 pm on Feb 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
- I don't have this one in my list - any idea where it is?
I've tweaked the other 4 as suggested and it's great!
| 4:08 am on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)|
If the following is missing in your installation
Go to about:config
Right-click in the preferences list, point to "New," then select "Boolean."
At the first prompt, type:
At the second prompt, set the value to 'true'.
| 4:18 am on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Anyone know the actual FILE this changes the info in, or does it do it in the registry?
I'd like to be able to just copy this one modified file onto other machines, rather than have to go in and make all these changes over and over.
| 5:19 am on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)|
For all firefox changes mentioned in this thread, you type about:config into the address bar and change from there.
For those complaining that these make non-standard requests to the server, see here:
Last but not least, read about how IE "cheats" [grotto11.com] to make itself seem faster, especially for first requests.
ps. I would not tamper with initial paint delay in newer Firefox builds, it's not needed and can cause a second rendering of the page to be required.
| 10:40 am on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Sorry for diffrent subject, but Why Can't We Edit Browser Source of Firefox like IE.
eg. if I open html page on my desktop with firefox, I can not edit firefox source of same page, I have to use another editor.
Can any one help?
Thank You In Advance,
| 2:01 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Just did all the tweaking works great except for one problem.
Went to open a file with Adobe and no luck it would not open the doc.
Any ideas? I just downloaded the 7.0 version and it said download was succesful.
| 2:28 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Mann, I suggest you start a new thread for your topic; I think what you want to do can be done but it might require more discussion than would be appropriate in this thread.
Stubnolez, try changing your preferences back to the defaults and see if Acrobat files will open then. It sounds to me like your problem may be due more to a Reader upgrade than to your FireFox settings changing.
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