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Opera 7.60 Preview 3 released
With voice browsing and a slimmed down GUI.
bryholmsen




msg:1585756
 7:36 pm on Nov 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Opera's preview 3 shows a very different UI:

[snapshot.opera.com...]

The GUI is slimmed down and simplified, and all mail UI is disabled until you actually create an account. It works with Gmail, too.

One interesting feature is the start bar which appears when you click in the URL field on the address bar. There's a "Top 10" button there, for instance.

 

kodaks




msg:1585757
 10:15 pm on Nov 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Wow....it's looking pretty good. Still nowhere near firefox, though :)

sc18




msg:1585758
 6:39 am on Nov 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi when I clicked the link [snapshot.opera.com...] it shows changelog page. I am using firefox 1.0 .Any other link is there?

Thanks

amznVibe




msg:1585759
 6:48 am on Nov 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Heh, don't forget their firefox skin/buttons for Opera
[opera.com...]

Hester




msg:1585760
 9:19 am on Nov 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Wow....it's looking pretty good. Still nowhere near firefox, though

What do you mean?

Hester




msg:1585761
 9:23 am on Nov 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi when I clicked the link [snapshot.opera.com...] it shows changelog page. I am using firefox 1.0 .Any other link is there?

Did you not notice the Download link?

bryholmsen




msg:1585762
 8:29 pm on Nov 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Wow....it's looking pretty good. Still nowhere near firefox, though :)

No, it's nowhere near the extension mess of Firefox, thankfully ;) Everything fits nicely together in Opera, unlike... Well, certain other browsers.

bill




msg:1585763
 1:53 am on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes, the extensions on FireFox have been one of the major reasons Opera is still the better product in this space. Problems with installing and uninstalling those extensions has been the source of a lot of problems.

Wasn't Opera working with Mozilla to standardize browser extensions? I can't seem to find the reference now.

Hester




msg:1585764
 9:48 am on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Wasn't Opera working with Mozilla to standardize browser extensions?

Why would they do that? Opera doesn't use extensions.

bachius




msg:1585765
 2:52 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

He probably ment plugins...
[opera.com...]

encyclo




msg:1585766
 3:01 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

It's good to see that they are also building Linux/Unix versions at the same time as the Windows versions, rather than developing the products separately:

[snapshot.opera.com...]

One thing I've noticed from the changelogs is the distinct lack of improvements in page rendering, CSS support, etc. All the changes going through appear to be bug fixes and interface improvements. Although Opera's standards support is excellent, it still trails behind Mozilla/Firefox in some areas, and there seems to be little work done in that respect at the moment.

Hester




msg:1585767
 3:17 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Multiple rendering fixes.

Opera is still ahead of Firefox in some areas when it comes to CSS. Media queries (CSS3), Generated Content (which used to work in Gecko but has been put on hold I believe)...

Each version brings some new CSS improvements. (Perhaps not between versions Preview 2 and 3, but definitely between 7.54 and Preview 3. I noticed some changes and others have too.)

All the changes going through appear to be bug fixes and interface improvements.

What's wrong with that? I'd prefer them to fix as many bugs as possible rather than add new (often unwanted) features.

encyclo




msg:1585768
 4:24 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

I noticed some changes and others have too.

That's a good thing. I'm all for bug fixes and UI improvements, but the changelog gives the impression that this version was just that, with no change in the underlying rendering engine. I'm glad to see that they haven't stopped work in that area.

Hester




msg:1585769
 4:42 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

but the changelog gives the impression that this version was just that, with no change in the underlying rendering engine

The quote I gave about multiple rendering fixes came from the changelog.

encyclo




msg:1585770
 4:46 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

The quote I gave about multiple rendering fixes came from the changelog.

I think that's sufficient proof that speed-reading doesn't work! ;)

Hester




msg:1585771
 11:16 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

I should have made it clearer though.

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