kodaks
msg:1585757 | 10:15 pm on Nov 13, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Wow....it's looking pretty good. Still nowhere near firefox, though :)
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sc18
msg:1585758 | 6:39 am on Nov 14, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Hi when I clicked the link [snapshot.opera.com...] it shows changelog page. I am using firefox 1.0 .Any other link is there? Thanks
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amznVibe
msg:1585759 | 6:48 am on Nov 14, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Heh, don't forget their firefox skin/buttons for Opera
[opera.com...]
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Hester
msg:1585760 | 9:19 am on Nov 15, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Wow....it's looking pretty good. Still nowhere near firefox, though |
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What do you mean?
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Hester
msg:1585761 | 9:23 am on Nov 15, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Hi when I clicked the link [snapshot.opera.com...] it shows changelog page. I am using firefox 1.0 .Any other link is there? |
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Did you not notice the Download link?
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bryholmsen
msg:1585762 | 8:29 pm on Nov 15, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Wow....it's looking pretty good. Still nowhere near firefox, though :) |
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No, it's nowhere near the extension mess of Firefox, thankfully ;) Everything fits nicely together in Opera, unlike... Well, certain other browsers.
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bill
msg:1585763 | 1:53 am on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Yes, the extensions on FireFox have been one of the major reasons Opera is still the better product in this space. Problems with installing and uninstalling those extensions has been the source of a lot of problems. Wasn't Opera working with Mozilla to standardize browser extensions? I can't seem to find the reference now.
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Hester
msg:1585764 | 9:48 am on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Wasn't Opera working with Mozilla to standardize browser extensions? |
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Why would they do that? Opera doesn't use extensions.
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bachius
msg:1585765 | 2:52 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0) |
He probably ment plugins...
[opera.com...]
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encyclo
msg:1585766 | 3:01 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0) |
It's good to see that they are also building Linux/Unix versions at the same time as the Windows versions, rather than developing the products separately: [snapshot.opera.com...] One thing I've noticed from the changelogs is the distinct lack of improvements in page rendering, CSS support, etc. All the changes going through appear to be bug fixes and interface improvements. Although Opera's standards support is excellent, it still trails behind Mozilla/Firefox in some areas, and there seems to be little work done in that respect at the moment.
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Hester
msg:1585767 | 3:17 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Multiple rendering fixes. |
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Opera is still ahead of Firefox in some areas when it comes to CSS. Media queries (CSS3), Generated Content (which used to work in Gecko but has been put on hold I believe)... Each version brings some new CSS improvements. (Perhaps not between versions Preview 2 and 3, but definitely between 7.54 and Preview 3. I noticed some changes and others have too.) | All the changes going through appear to be bug fixes and interface improvements. |
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What's wrong with that? I'd prefer them to fix as many bugs as possible rather than add new (often unwanted) features.
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encyclo
msg:1585768 | 4:24 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| I noticed some changes and others have too. |
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That's a good thing. I'm all for bug fixes and UI improvements, but the changelog gives the impression that this version was just that, with no change in the underlying rendering engine. I'm glad to see that they haven't stopped work in that area.
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Hester
msg:1585769 | 4:42 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| but the changelog gives the impression that this version was just that, with no change in the underlying rendering engine |
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The quote I gave about multiple rendering fixes came from the changelog.
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encyclo
msg:1585770 | 4:46 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| The quote I gave about multiple rendering fixes came from the changelog. |
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I think that's sufficient proof that speed-reading doesn't work! ;)
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Hester
msg:1585771 | 11:16 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
I should have made it clearer though.
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