rjohara

msg:1585735 | 2:21 am on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Very nice to have Opera 8.5 ad-free! I have had a healthy respect for Opera's CSS implementation since I noticed a display "bug" one one of my pages: Opera was pushing a element outside of its box, and no other browsers were doing this. After setting both margin and padding on the element, Opera snapped it into place.
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keyplyr

msg:1585736 | 7:42 am on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Using Version 8.02 (registered). Can I over-install 8.5 and keep preference settings (no extentions) or do I need to uninstall and install fresh? Thanks.
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Hester

msg:1585737 | 10:33 am on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I installed it over my existing version without problems. Brett, I've heard turning off referrers is a bad thing. It can mess with the way some sites work. (Also stats programs.) Everything else you said is great. Of course this is just the tip of the iceberg of what Opera can do!
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Brett_Tabke

msg:1585738 | 12:15 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I have run with referrers off since the early days of the web. I only run into sites that require referrers about once a month - and that is an easy reload. Referrers? Love 'em as a webmaster - hate 'em as a user. Search Engines? Hate 'em as a webmaster - love 'em as a user. > Opera's CSS implementation Operas CTO is one of the authors of the css standard. tip: Use Shift-Click on form submit buttons to submit the form into a new window/page. That way if any of your info is wrong, you need not back up and re-enter if the page does not allow caching (such as a password, or credit card number which is not cachable - even via the back button). Back: right click down, drag left, release. Back: z key.
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photon

msg:1585739 | 1:47 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Back: hold right mouse button, click left. Forward: x Forward: hold left mouse botton, click right. Alt-z and alt-x show you the forward and backward "history" in a pop-up menu. Shift-z and shift-x move you back to the beginning of the tab's history and forward to the next logical page respectively. There are numerous other mouse gestures [opera.com]. Bonus tip: to quickly navigate through tabs, hold down the right mouse button and use the scroll wheel to manuver through the tabs. And 1/2 move you back/forward a tab.
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mattglet

msg:1585740 | 2:10 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| Go down to menu option "Content" and and then select "JavaScript Options" and uncheck all the boxes. |
| While I absolutely know why you recommend this, I have to say I disagree. There's so much cool stuff done with JavaScript now (especially with AJAX); you're helping keep the web in the 20th century. Don't let a few bad apples ruin the bunch. [edited by: mattglet at 2:13 pm (utc) on Sep. 21, 2005]
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RammsteinNicCage

msg:1585741 | 2:13 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
photon, thanks for those additional mouse gestures without actually gesturing! That'll be helpful because I have a tendency to close a window when I'm trying to go back when I move the mouse to the left. Luckily, Opera has that nifty feature of opening windows you previously closed. :) Jennifer
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Brett_Tabke

msg:1585742 | 3:46 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Yes! - Control-Z to reopen any closed window in this session :-) very-cool.
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Hester

msg:1585743 | 3:54 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I like the way you can restore all your open pages after a crash. AFAIK no other browser does that.
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collymellon

msg:1585744 | 4:02 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| Yes! - Control-Z to reopen any closed window in this session :-) very-cool. |
| Ive been trying to keep away from all the exciting talk of the new Opera but that feature is just too coool..
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photon

msg:1585745 | 5:26 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
And you can see all of the closed windows for your current session under the Windows menu.
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Brett_Tabke

msg:1585746 | 5:39 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
> crash. AFAIK no other browser does that. Yes, opera is unique in its ability to cras)#&(*&@#! NO CARRIER
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Brett_Tabke

msg:1585747 | 5:40 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Looking for tips on the RSS reader. How do you use it effectively?
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mattglet

msg:1585748 | 5:52 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Ah, I just realized my previous post was totally off-base. I thought BT said "turn off JavaScript", not "turn off Javascript options". My bad, it's been a super long day.
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rocknbil

msg:1585749 | 6:32 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Has anyone got any comments on the Mac version? I loaded it up on the Mac I have here and it's . . . pretty awful. Grossly different than the PC version. For reasons I've previously mentioned, this Mac is still an OS 9 Mac.
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keyplyr

msg:1585750 | 7:50 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Is there a way to expand the width of the Google Search box (and/or reduce size of address box?) Thanks
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Brett_Tabke

msg:1585751 | 8:09 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Remove the g search box all together. (right click, and remove) Then just type in to the address bar "g KEYWORD" where keyword is your search. That *is* a google search and easier than using that google search box. You can adjust your search prefs from prefs - > advanced -> search. You can also double click to highlight a word. Then right click and select search or "search with". No more cut-n-paste for searching! You can focus on the address box by pressing F8. Or you can popup an address bar anywhere with F2. Try it - press f2, and then type g and notice it says "google search" over on the right side.
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akreider

msg:1585752 | 4:39 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Is anybody else having problems with there not being a horizontal scrolling option for pages that are too wide to see? I guess it's possible that I accidently turned it off at the same time that I installed Opera 8.5, but it seems unlikely. I looked around and didn't see any option for turning off horizontal scrolling. I'm guessing it might be some kind of CSS issue?
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keyplyr

msg:1585753 | 9:00 am on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Imported Firefox bookmarks, which ended up in a seperate folder. How do I loose that folder so list drops straight down, instead of to the side then down?
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photon

msg:1585754 | 2:19 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0) |
akreider-- Try Ctrl-F7. That toggles scroll bars on and off. Don't know if that'll fix just the horizontal one though. You can always use the left and right arrow keys to scroll horizontally. If you get a horizontal scroll bar and you place your mouse cursor on it, the scroll wheel then controls horizontal scrolling. And a relatively new feature of Opera: Ctrl-F11, Fit to Window Width. Opera will try to rejigger the page so that it all fits within the current window size.
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photon

msg:1585755 | 2:25 pm on Sep 22, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Brett-- I'm looking for those RSS tips too. Even though the address bar indicator is pretty slick, the use of the actaul reader seems to be beyond my ken. It feels very buggy to me, and I have yet to consistently get any kind of display of the feeds, manage them, or read them. Even the Opera Lover site isn't much help with this issue. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the "W3-Dev" menus I added. For now, I'm still using SharpReader until I can figure out how to use Opera's.
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