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Opera passes 5 million installs.
Brett_Tabke




msg:1587041
 9:54 am on Oct 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

Opera fans are pleased to hear that since the release of Opera 5, there have been 5 million downloads and installs of the browser. That's a pretty impressive figure for a commercial browser. That's just the windows users and doesn't count all the other ports or beta's either (which would make it substantially higher).

[opera.com...]

Work on the next version of Opera is progressing according to news group reports. The biggest addition is that of Unicode. With that addition, all "feature gaps" between Opera and ie/netscape are finally closed. In fact, the "feature gap" will now go the other way with ie/nn missing many core user features Opera provides. With work on the Opera ports to Linux, Mac, and portable devices, nearing fruitiion, Opera very well could be the #2 browser on the net before the end of the year. The next release will be the Opera Comes of Age version we've been waiting for.

 

Marshall




msg:1587042
 10:23 am on Oct 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

Brett,

Do you know approximately how many versions of NN are out there?

Brett_Tabke




msg:1587043
 10:27 am on Oct 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

I doubt there are accurate figures available right now Marshall. There's probably been 10 fold downloads what Opera has, but how many of them are actually still in use is unknown. Log files and counter sites are way out of whack on browser usage stats. With all the newer thrid party browsers using NN and IE agent strings (like Opera), browser stat sites are off an easy 10% (I think it is significantly higher than that).

caine




msg:1587044
 11:53 am on Oct 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

Hopefully, Opera will continue to grow, i've got it at home, its great, i've always been an NN fan, though over the last year or so slowly become dissillusioned with its restrictiveness and the profile manager set up, i hate NN6 and will start using it at work when i can remember where i downloaded it too.

When do you reckon joe bloggs website designer will start writing sites geared towards Opera as well as the other, as i come across a few sites that are not written with opera in mind, and unfortunately i have to switch over to NN, to read it.

Though i personally write universally for Opera, IE and NN v.3 and above.

wolfy




msg:1587045
 12:08 pm on Oct 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

I'm very happy to hear this news, because since I tried Opera for the first time I thought it's the faster browser on the earth, normally I use it to read forums, navigate throughout a site and IE to view graphic and dynamic sites. I think NN 6 is not a good version of that browser, i prefer to use the 4.7 version, it works really well.
byez

angiolo




msg:1587046
 12:43 pm on Oct 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

opera is excellent.

Very fast and it has nice quick features: I often use the G toggle option to quikly check the ALT tags (the G switches from pure text to text and graphics).

Opera opens several windows (sites) without reloading itself: this is another feature I appreciate a lot.

caine




msg:1587047
 12:59 pm on Oct 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

I like the G toogle also, Opera runs even faster.

rogerd




msg:1587048
 4:20 pm on Oct 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

>>When do you reckon joe bloggs website designer will start writing sites geared towards Opera<<

Maybe never? One of the problems afflicting web design is the need to design to accommodate multiple technologies - different screen resolutions, various browsers, different versions of the same browser, different script and cookie options settings, etc.

In looking at my logs, I've been pleased to see that the influence of Netscape is waning - not because I want to see Microsoft dominate the world, but because if browser makers can't agree on what a page looks like, I'd just as soon there be only one flavor. If Opera wants to take off, they should do what Compaq did years ago - make sure that stuff runs the same as on the industry leader, and THEN start improving things and adding features.

No doubt some of you remember when software for PCs actually came in different versions for different equipment brands. It wasn't until an absolutely clear industry standard was established (so-called IBM-compatibility) that the market took off. Several compatible-makers ended up eclipsing IBM itself. If Opera wants to carve out a major niche, they should start by displaying pages just like IE, which is now the default browser that most webmasters design for.

Brett_Tabke




msg:1587049
 12:05 pm on Oct 9, 2001 (gmt 0)

Opera "does tv" in a cherry deal with set top box maker: [opera.com...]

>make sure that stuff runs the same as on the industry leader

A year ago that was absolutly true. The old Opera 4 wasn't the best at compatability. However, they have come so far in that regard, that it is almost a nonissue now (especially after the next release with some critical updates).

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