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keyplyr

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Msg#: 328 posted 9:08 am on Dec 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

I have been told by one complaining surfer that using a javascript to expand page size to full availability, screws up his dual (split) monitor settings.

Would this also render the multi-window features of the Opera browser useless?

 

SmallTime

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Msg#: 328 posted 9:21 am on Dec 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

I'll second the complaint about maximizing page size and dual monitors, also think it obnoxious on any monitor - presumably i surf with my browser the size I want- which is never maximized.(I like to know who is popping what up behind me, so I can squash'em!)
I use opera, not sure about the multi window.

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Msg#: 328 posted 10:39 am on Dec 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

I agree... Don't maximize someone's browser window unless you ask first. You'll lose half your visitors doing stuff like that based on annoyance alone.

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Msg#: 328 posted 10:58 am on Dec 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

Opera 6 has two modes:
Native MDI (one window, with web pages displayed in child windows inside the main window).
New SDI mode - just like ie/nn (mono windows).

In mdi mode, a js maximize just takes the current page out to the max deminsions of the main Opera window. It doesn't resize the main overall Opera parent window.

In sdi mode, a js max acts just as it does in ie/nn.

SDI mode also has "tabs" where you can open multiple pages in the main window too (confusing, but awesome choices). But those "tabbed" windows are always the same size as the main window just like ie/nn/moz.

>who is popping what up behind me

Opera 6 has a popup stopper :-)

keyplyr

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Msg#: 328 posted 6:21 pm on Dec 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

>I agree... Don't maximize someone's browser window unless you ask first. You'll lose half your visitors doing stuff like that based on annoyance alone.

The unique and return visits have increased at a steady rate; this script is used on all 100 pages, so it's no big surprise.

>i surf with my browser the size I want- which is never maximized

The reason it's there is because an increasing number of portals and link pages are pushing websites into small boxes where they can advertise around the borders, distorting the presentation. This script works instantly to over-ride that, but does not change the size of the window.

Thanks for your input

IanKelley

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Msg#: 328 posted 10:09 pm on Dec 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

ah... my mistake... you're breaking frames, not re-sizing the browser.

I'd suggest not using JavaScript... after all it doesn't do you a lot of good with people that don't have it enabled.

Instead, just add target="_top" to your links:
<a href="" target="_top">

That will break even the most ingenious of frames :-)

keyplyr

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Msg#: 328 posted 10:26 pm on Dec 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

>you're breaking frames, not re-sizing the browser

Actually, I am doing both and with JavaScript since less than 3% of my traffic has it dissabled.

I use this for breaking frames:

if (parent.frames.length > 0) {
parent.location.href = location.href; }

And this for over-riding those portal boxes:

self.moveTo(0,0);self.resizeTo(screen.availWidth,screen.availHeight);

But if your browser window is minimized, it will not change that. I think this is friendly.

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