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I love Opera, but here's a really TINY runner-up

 9:43 pm on Feb 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

A) I recently discovered a stand-alone browser that is so small it fits on a floppy. Free! You can get it at...


B) It's fast. It does NOT install, so if you don't like it, just delete the little rascal.

C) Unlike many "brand-x" browsers, this guy does NOT run on the IE engine. It is truly stand-alone.

D) No applet, plug-in or Flash support. No JavaScript (so NO pop-up ad windows)! No track of where you've been.

E) 99 44/100 % of the sites I visit work just fine on this puppy. I recommend it.

Aloha from Hawaii,
Bellgamin <><



 3:09 am on Feb 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

no javascript?

Most js nowadays resolves elegantly to nothing in no-js enabled browsers. And is used for news headlines, "inlcudes" and other dynamic content. Plus pop up windows for displaying non commercial content, or inputting comments. You may be missing on dynamic content. I would say that a significant minority of web sites are using js in some way or other to deliver useful content. Using a non js aware browser You just dont see it!


 10:52 am on Feb 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

It seemed interesting, so I downloaded it and ran it.

Very stupid little thing. And not because of it's lack of JS support. I do run a small browser detection on my web site, but it's not important, since this browser's major flaw is that it cannot comprehend CSS at all. I've tested it on several sites, including Zeldman's A List Apart [alistapart.com] and my own site, and the results were very similar to the long forgotten NN3 or even IE3.

The only good thing about it is that it's "quiet", leaving no tracks indeed. But as far as browsing experience is concerned, this is one of the most stupid little things I've seen. Definitely NOT worth a try.

Fixed URL ~ Marcia

(edited by: Marcia at 12:21 pm (utc) on Feb. 17, 2002)


 7:43 pm on Feb 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well, gee, Nicu... if you can find a portable, floppy-fitting browser that has all the goodies demanded by YOUR particular site, I would love to know about it.

"Bluto" is another super-tiny (244K), weird browser that is worth checking out if for no other reason than to view its far-out splash-in/splash-out pages. No installation so, if you don't like it, just delete it.

Bluto was written by a programmer whose NYC job was destroyed by the 9-11 attack. No doubt Nicu will find his efforts at earning a living to be equally as stupid as OffX1's.

Bluto lives in the blackness at...


 8:31 pm on Feb 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

I really like these independent efforts. There is a GTK+ *nix browser, Dillo [dillo.sourceforge.net], that I love to use for reading forums. It is amazingly light and fast (only 250 Kb!). The thing to keep in mind is that most these projects are developed on a volunteer basis, and that they are a work in progress.

These folks should be praised, not upbraided.

Bellgamin, I know that you are being sarcastic, but let's keep it civil.


 9:19 pm on Feb 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

Sorry, guys, I didn't mean to offend anybody.
I simply have no use for such a browser. So far, that is.


 9:02 am on Feb 18, 2002 (gmt 0)


My post said "I recommend it." Nicu's post said, "It's stupid." My very first post to this forum and I am, in so many words, called stupid. So why am I the one who is being uncivil?

I downloaded Dillo and unzipped it. Since it lacks a .exe file, I am too computer-inept to know what to do with it. Duhh.


 9:55 am on Feb 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

> I downloaded Dillo and unzipped it

Hi Bellgamin - Dillo is a unix browser, so to run it you'll need to install and learn linux or BSD... probably a little exessive for the purpose of demoing a new browser ;)

Nicu_Alecu and Bellgamin Welcome to you both. As a rule we disagree with each other as civilly as possible within WmW. It's very easy to offend, or mis-interprete sarcasm in a forum such as this.

So if you wish to be sarcastic or offend others please keep it in foo ;)


 10:57 am on Feb 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

bellgamin, it looks to me like it was just the wrong name typed in there, which can easily happen with a few windows open, even with a light browser ;)

So look at it that way, I'm sure that was the case.

I can see the point of light, quick browsers. I run NS 4.7 with JS disabled to check for site errors, and it's a clunker and a half to keep open.


 6:31 pm on Feb 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

There are times when I am physically unable to be at my computer keyboard. When my great-granddaughter visits, she often reads my e-mail out loud to me, so I can lie in bed & reply.

Imagine my surprise when she read your reply that Dillo is a eunuch's browser. Good grief, what next? :-)


 10:57 pm on Feb 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

I LOVE it! The best pun I've heard in a long time.

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