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Beverly Hills Goes Opera with NXTV
Brett_Tabke




msg:1584581
 9:06 am on Jul 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

Opera has worked a deal with NXTV to embed Opera in "set top boxes". NXTV makes set top boxes for luxury hotels in the US. Some of those are located in Beverly Hills Ca. Press Release:

[opera.com...]

 

Nick_W




msg:1584582
 9:35 am on Jul 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

The marketing boys and girls must be due for one hell of a bonus for the past few months work ;)

Nick

papabaer




msg:1584583
 10:13 am on Jul 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

Just wait... there is much more in the works I am certain. Opera's popularity and market penetration are going to keep growing. The new high-level partnerships will have as much to do with that as the growing ground-swell of Opera converts. I love reading the feedback posted on Download.com regarding Opera - talk about fervor!

I also expect some interesting surprises when v.7 beta is released. I doubt if that event is more than a few months away. With the promised additional support of DOM, there will be even more to like about this incerdible piece of software.

dcheney




msg:1584584
 10:22 am on Jul 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

<sarcasm>hmm, but if more people adopt Opera think of all the computer jobs that will be lost (all those poor guys that have to install the weekly security updates for IE throughout their company)</sarcasm>

EliteWeb




msg:1584585
 4:04 pm on Jul 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

I can't say I've been to a single hotel in vegas where the web browser interface on a tv or set top was IE physically :) so cool for Opera, i wonder how i can become their official search page ;)

gph




msg:1584586
 9:57 pm on Jul 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

Don't get me wrong, I think Opera is a great browser but if it is increasing in popularity I hope future versions will more fully support CSS.

I just gave up on trying to include Opera in my DHTML that uses the display property and had to lump it in with NN4s CSS and JavaScript.

I'd love to take Opera out of this code:

if (typeof document.getElementById!="undefined"&&typeof window.opera=="undefined") {
document.write('<\script src="scripts_DOM.js" type="text/javas\cript" language="Java\script"></s\cript>');
} else {
}

papabaer




msg:1584587
 11:23 pm on Jul 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

gph, what CSS properties are giving you problems? Besides "clipping" auto & scroll, Opera's CSS support is excellent.

Brett_Tabke




msg:1584588
 11:43 pm on Jul 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

fyi, Opera's cheif tech officer? Compare names:
[w3c.org...]
[opera.com...]
[w3.org...]

Opera the first browser to support both css1 and css2.

DOM is not css.
[w3.org...]

gph




msg:1584589
 12:15 am on Jul 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi guys, your right Brett, I'm comparing apples and oranges, CSS isn't the DOM.

display:none works on page load but can't be (AFAIK) manipulated. Here is an example. This works in IE5+, NN6 (I don't know about ver 7) and Mozilla 1.0.

I really like Opera and use it or Mozilla 1.0. I'd like to see it compete with the big boys when it comes to DHTML.

<html>
<head>
<title>Expand</title>
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
<!-- Hide script from older browsers

function toggle(Sub) {
if (document.getElementById) {
thisMenu = document.getElementById(Sub).style
if (thisMenu.display == "block") {
thisMenu.display = "none"
} else {
thisMenu.display = "block"
}
return false
} else {
return true
}
}
// End hiding script -->
</script>

<style>
.Subs {display: none;}
</style>

</head>
<body>

<a href="javascript:void(0);" onClick="return toggle('Sub1')">Heading 1</a><br>
<span class="Subs" ID="Sub1">
content
</span>
<a href="javascript:void(0);" onClick="return toggle('Sub2')">Heading 2</a><br>
<span class="Subs" ID="Sub2">
content
</span>
<a href="javascript:void(0);" onClick="return toggle('Sub3')">Heading 3</a>
<span class="Subs" ID="Sub3">
content
</span>
</body>
</html>

gph




msg:1584590
 12:19 am on Jul 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm actually using the above script in my scripts_DOM like this:

function toggle(Sub) {
thisMenu = document.getElementById(Sub).style
if (thisMenu.display == "block") {
thisMenu.display = "none"
} else {
thisMenu.display = "block"
}
}

papabaer




msg:1584591
 12:24 am on Jul 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

gph, as I stated in my earlier post, v.7 of Opera will add support for the DOM manipulation as favored by DHTML enthusiasts. I've been following Opera Support responses on the various forums [my.opera.com...] and have read a number of official replies to DOM support inquiries. The exact level and type has not been volunteered, but the implications are that there will be ample support to satisfy the DHTML crowd.

gph




msg:1584592
 12:33 am on Jul 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

That is very good news papabaer. It's the only fault I can find in Opera. I look forward to treating it with the respect it deserves.

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