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Praise for the Opera Browser
small touches as well as large
tedster




msg:1584034
 5:44 pm on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm a big fan of the Opera browser - I've said it often and will probably continue to.

Recently I've been appreciating one apparently small touch - and that's the way a right click works on the taskbar tab for a window. I often use a right click down there to close the window.

Most apps that I use will immediately change the screen display to show the contents of that window - which is really silly, annoying (and even a bit disorienting) if I'm only closing that window.

Opera does NOT change the screen display just because i made a right click - it only gives me the context menu, which is all I asked for.

Now that's detailed attention to interface usability.

 

lorax




msg:1584035
 7:06 pm on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

I agree that's a nice touch.

BUT ;) I really wish they hadn't made it so hard to save a URL (ctrl T). It's not a quick comfortable position for my fingers especially when they're resting in the "official" typing positions - which is where I normally keep my left hand while the right mouses happily along.

That being said, F4 is such a quick and easy way to access my bookmarks!

dingman




msg:1584036
 10:18 pm on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

I wish they used the same key bindings as something else I've ever used. I understand using Ctrl-N for a new tab even though all the other tabbed browsers use Ctrl-T, but being asked to bookmark a site every time I mean to open a new tab is annoying. I somehow figured out that Ctrl-U was supposed to be view-source, and in Opera I always have to use the menus 'cause I can't remember CTRL-F3 - it doesn't make any more sense, it's just different.

Not that I don't like opera. My primary complaint with it is that I'm a Free software zealot. I only use it to make sure my pages are interoperable, but that limitation is only there because I want to use Free software for everything, not because I dislike Opera as a tool. But I do wish that they'd either pick key combinations that make some sort of sense, or use the same meaningless ones I've already had to learn for every other browser.

toadhall




msg:1584037
 11:01 pm on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

Lorax
> I really wish they hadn't made it so hard to save a URL (ctrl T)

Right click and choose 'Add to Bookmarks'

lorax




msg:1584038
 5:50 am on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

toadhall,
I may be too anal but using the right click only offers me the ability to save the URL in the top tier of the bookmarks. Not very suitable to my filing system. :)

I like the fact that I can open the bookmarks so quickly (F4). I've structured my bookmarks so that they're only 2 tiers - 1 tier under "bookmarks" and one more beneath that so there's never more than 3 clicks to bring up a resource. If I could choose to use a different key combination to execute the "save as" then I would be a happy camper.

bobriggs




msg:1584039
 6:58 am on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

Recently I've been appreciating one apparently small touch - and that's the way a right click works on the taskbar tab for a window. I often use a right click down there to close the window.

'down there' - he-he, mine are on top, I kept looking down there.

I still like Mozilla 1.1, right-click on a tab, you have all kinds of options: New Tab, Reload Tab, Reload all tabs, close tab, close other tabs. Really good. I suppose they could add, close this tab and the one to the left and the one to the right, but then let's not get too ridiculous.

I may be too anal but using the right click only offers me the ability to save the URL in the top tier of the bookmarks. Not very suitable to my filing system.

Another mozilla point, if you can remember Ctrl-Shift-D -(
Alt-Ctl-B) for Opera) but we all remember Ctrl-D, right? And Ctrl-B does make a lot of sense in Mozilla to bring up the bookmarks window. In opera, you get the keyboard shortcuts menu. I guess its just what you're used to.

I like both of these browsers. I'm just really liking Mozilla here lately. What gives it the edge over Opera? I can selectively block images from any server that I want. It's turned into an internet junkbuster on it's own (almost). But after a few days of surfing, I've been able to block most banner ad images with a right-click. I rarely see one now, unless it's hosted on the same server.

ctsolutions




msg:1584040
 12:39 pm on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hopefully Opera will add some additional mouse gestures in the next release. I frequestly use a graphics tablet instead of a mouse, and I just love mouse gestures. Opening links in a new window in the background is so easy when I just have to press the button on my stylus that I've assigned to right-click and gesture down-then-up. The movement involved is almost nonexistent, and (more important) it feels so natural.

Anyone who uses a tablet must try mouse gestures. Not quite as fab with a mouse, but pretty good with the logitech trackman f/x

ctsolutions




msg:1584041
 12:43 pm on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

Oh and by the way, as far as saving your bookmarks to the correct folder: if you enable menu commands in the hotlist, you can choose 'Set as active folder' in any of your bookmark folders. Then, when you press CTRL-T it will be created in that folder. I kind of tend to browse by theme, so I just change the active folder to match.

lorax




msg:1584042
 3:22 pm on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

ctsolutions,
That is how I use the bookmarks - by opening a folder I want to save the current page to and then using ctrl-t to save it. I would like a different key combination though as ctrl-t is a bit awkward. Something like alt-s or one of the function keys would work nicely. I being picky and I know it.

toadhall




msg:1584043
 7:34 pm on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

lorax:
> ...only offers me the ability to save the URL in the top tier of the bookmarks
> ...I use the bookmarks by opening a folder I want to save the current page to and then using ctrl-t to save it

ctl-T and "right click/Add to bookmarks" are the same thing, or at least they are on my set-up (Win, v6.05). When I right click, etc. I get the same option I get with ctl-T: save url in the current bookmark folder. MOF, the option is literally "Add to Bookmarks ... Ctl+T"

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