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W3C Validator: Opera's Ctl-Alt-V gives error
but not direct access of W3C page
madcat




msg:1586768
 8:24 pm on Dec 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

When using the Opera Ctrl + Alt + V function, the validator produces a "Fatal Error: No DOCTYPE specified!" message. However, when uploading the same files directly on the W3C site, it all checks out ok. Any ideas?

 

martinibuster




msg:1586769
 8:31 pm on Dec 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yes. This happened to me before.

You are pasting the url in the field that is designated for uploading html files.

Look below for the link to where you can paste a url.

madcat




msg:1586770
 1:42 am on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Shouldn't you just be able to go to any site and press Ctrl + Alt + v and see if the page validates? I used to.

I see that this appears in the source code before anything (making the doctype come in second place):

<!-- BEGIN Popup Blocker -->
<script language='javascript'>
NS_ActualOpen=window.open;
function NS_NullWindow(){this.window;}
function NS_NewOpen(url,nam,atr){return(new NS_NullWindow());}
window.open=NS_NewOpen;
</script>
<!-- END Popup Blocker -->

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Anyone know how I remove this pop-up blocker? I understand it's inherent in Opera. But if this is the problem, I would miss Ctrl + Alt + v too much...

tedster




msg:1586771
 6:14 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

You can easily turn off the pop-up blocker code with File > Quick Preferences. It's an easy to access toggle.

In Opera, Ctrl + Alt + v sends W3C the HTML from your cache, and not the actual page code from the server, as you've discovered. This does create a few anomalies.

madcat




msg:1586772
 7:21 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Actually the same js code above appears in Internet Explorer >> before the doctype. What is Popup blocker, or better yet how did it get in there?

tedster




msg:1586773
 10:02 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I take back part of what I said - Opera does NOT add blocker code to the cached page. So you're seeing code that's been introduced by some other source.

g1smd




msg:1586774
 11:20 pm on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

The !DOCTYPE definition MUST be the very first line of the file, even coming before the <html> element.

[Some security product, I don't recall which (Norton?), adds a script something like that]

tedster




msg:1586775
 12:05 am on Jan 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've got the newest Norton (2003) and that version at least does not add code to the cached page.

madcat




msg:1586776
 12:43 am on Jan 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yeah, it's an Ad Blocking function in Zone Alarm. Ctrl+Alt+V is way to convenient not to have anymore.

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