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Opera 7.10 Beta
msr986




msg:1584631
 12:03 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Opera 7.10 Beta was released today and is available on opera's ftp site.

Frankly I'm surprised to see another v7 beta. I'm in the process of downloading now, so I'm not sure if any of the v7 issues have been cleaned up.

 

msr986




msg:1584632
 5:16 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

BTW: As soon as I loaded the first page, I noticed some severe link underline issues. Not a very good beta.

mozopera




msg:1584633
 9:06 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

The thing I've noticed about Opera is that the initial 4 to 5 releases of a major version are usually so buggy that it is unreliable for daily use. I won't upgrade to the 7.X series until all the bugs are fixed. From its history, I guess this will be 7.12 or so. (And if they don't get fixed, I'll just move to Mozilla, which I'm equally fond of.)

luma




msg:1584634
 9:16 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

@msr986: What do you mean?

I really like this beta. It has a lot of cool new features:

  1. You can edit your keyboard settings/shortcuts (Preferences Mouse and keyboard)
  2. You can edit the mouse gestures (Preferences Mouse and keyboard)
  3. The "Info" panel (in Hotlist - F4). Especially Security information but also page size info.
  4. The "Notes" panel (again Hotlist). Especially the fact that it's easy to add notes (Ctrl+Shift+C) and use them in forms (CursorDown)
  5. You can edit "fastforward.ini" and add new keywords, e.g., "Nex page" in a foreign language.
  6. Cookie editor (Preferences Privacy Edit serer filters)
  7. Edit Wand passwords (Preferences Security)
  8. The new tool tips
  9. Automatically mark messages as read after X seconds (View Mark as read)
  10. Better keyboard support in mails (F7, F8, F9)

Btw, you can download Opera 7.10 Beta 1 from Opera's FTP server: ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/710/beta1/en/std/

There's also a Linux version of Opera 7.10 Preview 3 [snapshot.opera.com] available.

Have a look at the Common changelog for Opera 7.10 (for both Windows and Linux. Linux-only at the bottom) [snapshot.opera.com].

Brett_Tabke




msg:1584635
 10:35 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well, this is what, release #8 for v7? And it's the 8th time my mouse wheel still won't work with it.

Oh well, 6.06 is working great here.

luma




msg:1584636
 12:31 pm on Apr 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

The unofficial beta has been upgraded already:

ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/710/beta2/en/std/

I found one reason for Opera's underlining too much:

<a href="foo.html">Abonnieren<br></a>
Willkommen bei Tier-Freund.de

Opera doesn't like the BR before the closing anchor.

luma




msg:1584637
 12:50 pm on Apr 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Let's see: Opera 7 Beta 1, Beta 2, Final, 01, 02, 03, 7.1 Beta 1 and now Beta 2.

But 7.01, 7.02, and 7.03 were "only" security updates. I wouldn't expect them to fix anything but the security issue to avoid regressions.

I agree that Opera should not release "technical previews" as beta versions and a beta version as final but Opera 7.1 finally seems usable.

They'll never be able to fix all the bugs. There are just too many. :(

Anyway, regarding your mouse: Is it a Microsoft or Logitech mouse? What drivers do you use?

Maybe this helps: How to get Scrolling working with IBM Thinkpads and Synaptics TouchPads [nontroppo.org].

Apparantly, there's a registration fix for Logitec mice [logitech.de]. I haven't tried it!

synmoo




msg:1584638
 7:44 pm on Apr 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Luma:
By any chance do you happen to know the content of that Opera scrolling fix for synaptics touchpad users page? The link returns an error. If you could recall some of that it'd be great. I'm impressed with 7 so far (coming from 6) but having to move the mouse over to scroll is very frustrating.

Thanks in advance.

Nick

mozopera




msg:1584639
 1:39 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Opera 7.10 beta 3 has just been released:
ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/710/beta3/en/std/

luma




msg:1584640
 8:25 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

@synmoo: sorry, the question mark got "converted". Let's try again. But it seems to be for MouseMan only... The WebmasterWorld redirection script messes up the link. So here's the plain link:

http*//www.logitech.de/index.cfm?page=downloads/software&CRID=320&contentid=4979&OSID=1&softwareid=10577

@synmoo: I'm stupid. I still had the page in my cache but reloaded and now it's gone. Will ask some people if they still have cached copies and report back later. Again, sorry.

luma




msg:1584641
 3:11 pm on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

@synmoo: Try the following: Edit SynTPEnh.ini. In section [Opera Browser] add the following lines:

[Opera7]
WT = "*Opera*"
SF = 0x10000000
SF = 0x00004000

Be carful with copy&paste. The pipe "" character seems to get transfered to s.th. else (broken vertical bar). So use your keyboard to get the actual pipe character.

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