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Opera 7 - new features thread
alternate stylesheets, notes, etc
tedster




msg:1586007
 9:53 pm on May 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

If you aren't already following along, this threead in CSS [webmasterworld.com] gives a good glimpse into the advances in Opera 7.11

 

papabaer




msg:1586008
 11:43 pm on May 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nice add, Tedster. The discussion kind of grew a bit.... ;)

I would like to touch on a point that is often contentious, but almost always misunderstood: "browser speed."

In everyday use, browser speed needs to be measured by more than "rendering quickness." Other factors.. many other factors, are equally, and perhaps even more, important.

Opera's new Notes feature is tremendously useful to me and to my style of surfing. I could list dozens of examples but would still fall far short of describing how this feature has "sped-up" my surfing.

Another less than obvious "speed" enhancement: I keep groups of related sites saved in Hotlist folders. Those most frequently accessed, I keep loaded on the Personal Bar. When I want to read the news at my favorite tech sites, I right click on my Tech News folder, select open, and begin reading as seven tech/news websites are opened simultaneously in seperate panes. Speedy? No.. BLAZING!

If I want to send a article or news "snippet" to friends, I just highlight the text, right-click, and select send by mail. No need to "copy & paste," Opera does it for me. Very sweet, very "speedy."

Sort email every which way but loose.. including threaded converstations. More speed, more convenience.

"Ctrl + Alt + V" - send any page, even local files, to the W3 Html Validator. Very handy... and for my work day, a speed enhancement.

Alternate Style Sheets? Debug with Outline? Show Page Elements? Very "speedy" when debugging a layout.. I've even added my own custom style sheets... including a few designed to flag certain SEO tactics. Speedy? Useful? You bet!

4eyes




msg:1586009
 11:57 am on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

yep - looks like its finally time for me to jump to Opera (from Phoenix)

The Notes features is a great addition.

Its great for keeping a sites submission information for when you have to submit to that massive list of almost-but-not-quite-useless directories.

..and a million other things that I haven't discovered yet:)

Nick_W




msg:1586010
 12:00 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>The Notes features is a great addition

I just fail to see the benefit there but that makes 2 people I respect now that think it's good, so why?

Am I just missing the point of this feature or what?

Nick

Brett_Tabke




msg:1586011
 12:03 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

The big speed boost is in shift-control-click. Opening pages in the background while you surf in the foreground is a mega time saver. I also love the highlight, right click, and then search with several different search engines. Mouse gestures rock - there is no going back to hunt-n-peck (never look for a navigation icon to click again).

Going to IE or Moz is like throwing out an anchor - all you do is wait for pages to load.

4eyes




msg:1586012
 12:15 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nick

The notes feature allows anything you enter there to be pasted into a web form by a right-click menu - this is d***ed useful

It also allows me to take notes on stuff as I browse - easier than having a text editor open.

[edited by: 4eyes at 12:17 pm (utc) on June 1, 2003]

4eyes




msg:1586013
 12:17 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Brett

Mozilla has this feature as well - I had my middle button mapped to open links in background tab.

Having said that, it is somewhat slower to complete the loading

Nick_W




msg:1586014
 12:17 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Okay, can you make notes and have the note linked to a url? Or is the idea that you paste urls in your note as you browser?

Nick

4eyes




msg:1586015
 12:32 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nick

I don't think you can link the notes to a URL (not that I have found, anyway)

Its great for collating information as you are browsing. If you are data mining, say 'CSS Information', then browse away. When you find information you need, select it and do CTRL-SH-C and it is automatically added as a new 'Note'.

Nothing you couldn't do another way - but its much quicker.

Nick_W




msg:1586016
 12:35 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

OK, I'm with you now. Sounds neat actually. I have to do some research shortly and will give it a whirl, thanks for taking time out to explain this simple concept (such a dummy somtimes...) ;)

Nick

bachius




msg:1586017
 1:16 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Notes are automatically linked to the page you did a "Copy to note" in.

So if you then doubleclick the note, you open the page. Very neat I'd say...

Nick_W




msg:1586018
 1:17 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Oooh! that's what I wanted, that's what I wanted! ;)

Nick

4eyes




msg:1586019
 1:21 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

EXCELLENT!

It just gets better:)

papabaer




msg:1586020
 3:28 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes, it does get better...! ;)

To fully realise the power of Notes, you need to keep in mind that each Note entry can be editted and amended at anytime. You could rightfully describe NOTES as a "super-notepad-on-steroids-file-manager-information-organizer." Actually, this may be a bit of an understatement. It's searchable too!

And as 4eyes "notes," all this functionality is integrated INTO the browser!

Right Click functionality supreme. Opera 7.11 has the most detailed, dynamic, right click options I've ever seen. "Paste and Go," "Go to Url" (highlight any 'non-hyperlinked' web address, right click... and zoom! No need to cut n' paste to the address bar.

Brett_Tabke




msg:1586021
 4:11 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Mozilla has this feature as well

Not shift-control-click they don't. You have to have the right kind of mouse - no logitechs will work - only rudimentary ms drivers will.

4eyes




msg:1586022
 5:32 pm on Jun 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am doing ctrl-click and opening tabbed windows just fine.
There is an option in preferences that enables this feature - at least on 1.4a, but I am pretty sure it was there on previous builds.

However, now that Opera has the 'wand' for passwords, and the new style sheet and notes features ther really is no competitino for me anymore.

As already stated, its not the speed of rendering a page that matters, its the overall speed of your browsing experience.

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