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Opera's icon appears on my IE Favorites.
<blink> Huh?
pendanticist




msg:1586257
 11:36 pm on Sep 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I just recently loaded the newest version of Opera and lately, have noticed some odd happenings.

Not only has Opera iconed my IE Favorites, but when I use certain "Ctr+whatever" key (within /IE) for a particular piece of software - Opera is the browser chosen to render the page now. Used to be it'd open in IE.

What kind of solution am I looking at? Uninstall and re-install on a different drive?

I should point out that during the (fresh) installation process, I selected all the features which would keep Opera from being selected as 'default' anything...including my e-mail client.

Pendanticist.

 

hartlandcat




msg:1586258
 6:45 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

Probably IE has attempted to import some stuff from Opera (bookmarks etc.).

P.S. You'd be far better off using Opera as your default than IE.
(sorry, couldn't resist)

pendanticist




msg:1586259
 7:02 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Probably IE has attempted to import some stuff from Opera (bookmarks etc.).

Uh, not the case as I've been using IE and have not requested importing from a browser that has only the installed Favs and NONE of my own.

Besides, like I said earlier, I just installed Opera so I fail to understand how IE has anything to do with installing Opera's icons on all the IE Favorites.

Oh, the only reason I installed the newest version of Opera was to check cross-browser viewability and for no other reason.

The features some of you like to have are features I can not afford to use when maintaining my educational site. Don't want to block pop-ups/overs or unders because I dump sites which utilize them. There are many reasons why, but that's enough to go public with.

Thanks.

Next theory?

Pendanticist.

MonkeeSage




msg:1586260
 7:07 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

Go to add / remove programs in control panel, click on the progam defaults...thing...on the lower left (came with SP1), set default browser back to IE, everything should be 'fixed' then (back to how it was before with IE icons and IE as default browser called from other programs).

Jordan

pendanticist




msg:1586261
 7:13 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks Jordan :) That did the trick.

Pendanticist.

hartlandcat




msg:1586262
 1:38 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

The features some of you like to have are features I can not afford to use when maintaining my educational site. Don't want to block pop-ups/overs or unders because I dump sites which utilize them. There are many reasons why, but that's enough to go public with.

I'm afraid I fail to understand what you are saying.

pendanticist




msg:1586263
 2:13 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

I was rebutting.

The features some of you like to have are features I can not afford to use when maintaining my educational site.

For example:

Don't want to block pop-ups/overs or unders because I dump sites which utilize them.

If a website throws any of the above, I remove them from my directory. I despise them, so I don't list sites that throw them. If they start throwing ups/overs/unders, I delete the site as soon as I find it/them.

There are many reasons why, but that's enough to go public with.

Just being cryptic. :)

Pendanticist.

hartlandcat




msg:1586264
 2:52 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

But surely if you block popups, it won't matter anyway?

pendanticist




msg:1586265
 3:52 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

>But surely if you block popups, it won't matter anyway?

Matter to whom? The feedback I've gotten from my viewers is overwhelmingly in favor of finding a website where they are safe from ads, banners and pops. I happen to agree.

The only way I can tell if the site throws them is to experience them myself and I use IE to do that. Truth be told, most of the reasons (from the posts I've read here at WebmasterWorld), folks like 'tailorable' browsers as much as they dislike anything MS and that's ok.

As for me, I'm more the utilitarian user of browsers. If it fits my scheme at the moment, I'll use it. If not, I'll use something else.

Take text size for example. IE (6.0.2800.1106IC), NS (7.1) and Opera's newest all render text sizes differently now. Up until these latest browser variants came out, all text sizes were very much similar which met my criteria for multi-browser viewability. This also meant leaving my viewers to make the minor text size adjustments themselves.

Those adjustments now are more than I feel comfortable with. So much so, that I'm considering placing a statement to that effect somewhere in my 'about' section so folks can adjust the size.

Anyway, when I heard about the new version of Opera I installed it and found some very disturbing differences. To whit: I have a javascript Public Service Announcement belonging to http*//codeamber.org/ on my front page. In IE and NS the PSA looks great! However, in Opera there is a huge red (about 3/8") border around the link and it looks like crap!

I use the free version of Opera and the banner ad takes up too much viewable space for my liking.

In NS, I have to reduce the text size to 75% and the tables text is aligned left. In the other browsers it defaults to align center. With 160+ categories and over 5,000 sites listed, the table looks terrible without the size adjustments. All truncated don'tcha know.

MSIE
MSIE/6
MSIE/5
MSIE/4
Netscape
Mozilla/1
Netscape (compatible)
Netscape
Netscape/4
Netscape/6
WebTV

As you can see, IE is the dominant browser of folks visiting me. Oh, and rarely do I even see an Opera browser in my stats.

Clearly, more folks use IE's newer versions while the majority of NS users are using NS's older versions and I get far more MSNTV/WebTV visitors than Opera of any variant.

Hope this clarifies more than it confuses. :)

Pendanticist.

hartlandcat




msg:1586266
 4:11 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

I completely misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were going around sites and then blocking people from accessing them via the computers in the IT department that I thought you had control over if they contained popups.

The reason why you have hardly any Opera users is because by default, Opera identifies itself as IE to try to fool sites that block non-IE users.

TGecho




msg:1586267
 4:19 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

>> The only way I can tell if the site throws them is to
>> experience them myself and I use IE to do that.
That's the closest to a good reason for sticking with IE I ever hear... As long as you're not just referring to popup blocking. I don't even use that :)

However, the fanatic in me says, "Here's an oportunity to promote alternative, 'better' browsers!" It sounds like you have an active, friendly userbase. So a little gentle prodding in the form of, "have you ever tried [Opera/Mozilla/Moz FB]? It's newer, faster, more secure, and it can do this!"

I dunno, just my first thought :)

hartlandcat




msg:1586268
 4:24 pm on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

Actually, you don't have to have popups disabled in Netscape, Opera and Mozilla.

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