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New Forum - Content Management
Brett_Tabke




msg:1583418
 6:40 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

The great majority of WebmasterWorld members have taking the plunge into content. Either pushed there by contextual advertising systems, affiliate programs
or because of blog influences - content is the king of todays successful websites.

One request:

Lets try to stay away from software questions and/or recommendations. Please take specific software q's up with the tech support for that software package.

 

treeline




msg:1583419
 9:14 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thank you! This is a great idea.

RobinL




msg:1583420
 9:21 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yea! I'm very excited for this forum and it comes just in time with my having a bunch of more free time! Expect to see me here a lot!

Robin

jcmoon




msg:1583421
 9:44 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Either pushed there by contextual advertising systems, affilaite programs or because of blog influences -

Or perhaps because it's mentioned in 5 out of some guy's list [webmasterworld.com] of 26 steps ... :)

deejay




msg:1583422
 9:46 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

ooo now this is going to be interesting.

Good call, Brett & Co

mister charlie




msg:1583423
 9:52 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

I recall seeing some mention of this type of forum earlier.

Happy to see it a reality.

ronburk




msg:1583424
 10:09 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

And yet, another nearby forum still lists among its purposes:

Topics include, content creation, management

And that forum doesn't seem to have an overflow of traffic that would necessitate splitting.

But that's just me :-).

Hanu




msg:1583425
 2:44 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Brett,

Lets try to stay away from software questions and/or recommendations.

I don't seem to get it. I can't recommend a CMS? What good is this formum for then? Don't get me wrong, I am not affiliated with any commercial CMS vendor and I only sparingly contribute to open source CMS. If I have a recommendation towards or against a particular CMS, that would be entirely based on my own experience. And I can't even do that?

irock




msg:1583426
 3:03 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

No offense... but I can't see how the moderators can enforce this policy if bulk of the questions are actually either about CMS recommendations or seeking help for their software.

jeremy goodrich




msg:1583427
 4:13 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)


affilaite programs

Featured homepage discussion misspelling ;)

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:1583428
 9:37 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Lets try to stay away from software questions and/or recommendations.

Won't this be a large part of the interest in this forum?

henry0




msg:1583429
 10:54 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think that Brett has in mind something different

Although the forum title could be miss leading
I believe the forum is not about CMS.

My thoughts about topics to be discussed:
Content gathering
Content analysis
Content serializing
New content development
And more in that field….

Am I wrong?

PeteM




msg:1583430
 11:11 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Lets try to stay away from software questions and/or recommendations." - Disagree, discussions of this nature, providing they are well balanced are intersting and educational.

"Please take specific software q's up with the tech support for that software package." - Completely agree.

Pete

jbinbpt




msg:1583431
 11:12 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

There is already a Content, Writing and Copyright forum.
I agree the CMS should be a separate forum, but I don't see how we can stay away from discussions on specific products.

rbacal




msg:1583432
 3:34 pm on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Is blog type stuff a part of this? (I have a bunch of questions on that topic, but there doesn't seem to be a place).

Brett_Tabke




msg:1583433
 3:41 pm on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

> management

Yes, this is more oriented towards the management and handling site of content than the creation side.

> overflow

The majority of the content management questions have shown up in the webmaster general forum. We are in the process of moving alot of those over this way.

> software

Ya, it is tough to keep it out of the discussion - I totally aggree.

What we are trying to avoid is software authors being goaded into posting for/against their systems. They will show up here regardless because it is like flies to the honey. I know of 5 cms authors in these forums. How do I know? Two things usually happen then: either they have to come in here and promote their software, or 2) defend it. Neither of which do us much good.

In that sense, staying away from specific sofware packages is no different than much of the rest of WebmasterWorld. Please use your best judgement and ask yourself how the message could still be as valuable without a mention of the specific software.

> blog

Content management is content management regardless if that is blog content, product content, or simply your review of the latest xbox game - content is still content.



Content gathering
Content analysis
Content serializing
New content development

Very good points. I labored for quite awhile with the title of the forum.

tangor




msg:1583434
 10:30 am on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I wonder how MANAGEMENT of content can be discussed without exploring the TOOLS necessary to manage it. Otherwise we're talking about databases and that's covered elsewhere. Or CMS programs (which are similar to databases) and discussed elsewhere. Or we're talking about what kind of content brings traffic (discussed everywhere). Meanwhile, I use three x five index cards and a pencil. And an Access database, a blog in Perl, Excel spreadsheets, a MySQL backend. My imagination. And some knowledge of the niche in which I operate.

We already "use it and manage it" or we don't have a website. I would dearly love to find a new magic bullet in this regard!

Without discussing the tools avaiable to make it happen, of course. :)

A little more guidance on the purpose of this forum would be VERY helpful!

henry0




msg:1583435
 12:29 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Major factor in starting from ground zero is client education
Most do think that a brochure and a few press releases will do it.
Then since content is "King" the second step in education is to find a company responsible for developing new content.

Here are some guidelines for those in search of some guidance and administrative "solution":

Goals

  • Site purpose
  • Project scope: Main site and umbrella sites
  • Centralization issues
  • Metrics: Measure user's site perception and incorporate user's perception with press and trend to define a general "feeling"
  • Performance: This regards the tech aspect and challenges.

Audience
  • User experience: Define primary and secondary users
  • Value proposition: in term of strategic and tactical
  • Scenarios: Competition analysis (Features, personalization and tech issues)

Site content

  • Existing content
  • Updating content

Content acquisition method

Documenting via content inventory organized by:
Source and audience type
Then by:
  • Static
  • Dynamic
  • Functional
  • And Transactional

Schemes

Ambiguous, topical audience oriented, metaphor driven or hybrid

And finally ranking content

Conceptuality and usability.

  • Navigation system: Hierarchical, global and local
  • Labeling pages links and defining if links will be textual or iconic
  • Blue print to include relationship between entry, label, content and functions

Visual design

  • Grids to depict elements' placement
  • Mockup: With content linkage
  • Review alignment, contrast and find repetition if any.
  • Web prototype to review functionality, appearance and errors

wmuser




msg:1583436
 9:52 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Nice guide henry0

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