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Accessibility issue in <noframes> section
duncan biscuits

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Msg#: 84 posted 5:10 pm on Jun 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Firstly, we've heard all the pros and cons about frames before, so I'm not looking to restart the old for/against frames arguments.

I've just done a small frames-based site (almost as an experiment really) and in the <noframes> section there is a list of links to each separate page on the site. So far, so good. Gives both the search engines and people with non-frames browsers something to read.

But not having frames is different from having javascript disabled. (And I cannot just assume my non-frames visitors will also be without javascript.) And here is the issue that is puzzling me: a visitor without frames enabled can click on any of the links in my <noframes> section. But when they arrive at the page they want, that will have a piece of javascript to tell it to go back and put itself in the frameset index.

Should I use 'target=_top' on all the links in the <noframes> part, to ensure that these visitors don't just keep getting whisked back to the index. Each individual page does have a clear link (including accesskey link) back to the main index, so despite frames being generally thought to be yucky, I am trying to make mine user-friendly.

Any thoughts?


duncan biscuits

5+ Year Member

Msg#: 84 posted 12:21 am on Jul 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Solved my own problem as it happens. Not only that, but I saw the light about five minutes after I'd done the Frames pages, and decided to jettison the whole lot. Aren't Frames horrible? :-)


WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 84 posted 3:24 pm on Jul 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Aren't Frames horrible? :-)

And pointless :)

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