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Any way to do a "mass upload" like on OV
hannamyluv




msg:1582366
 6:08 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

So, I have well, more than a few hundred ads over a few thousand KWs.

It will be a pain in the butt to transfer ads one by one into the MSN system. Does anybody know, is there a way to upload them all in a spreadsheet like I can with OV? I took a quick look around but didn't see anything but I thought I would ask in case I missed it.

I know I can upload the KWs, but I want to be able to dictate on the spreadsheet which order they would be assigned to with what text and URL.

 

werty




msg:1582367
 6:13 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Welcome to the fun of their system. I would suggest trying to get in to their quick launch program, because as of right now you can not upload multiple creatives to seperate orders or campaigns.

hannamyluv




msg:1582368
 6:36 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Oh, ick. If that's the case, then I'll only put a few ads up until it's closer to the holidays.

Why is it that these companies don't get that the easier you make it for me to put up an ad, the more ads I will put up? G does the same darn thing. *sigh*

breny




msg:1582369
 6:40 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

There is a way to do a mass upload. Look under "Import" in help.

I think there is also a way to do the other things you want with the Parameters fields, but I haven't quite figured that out yet.

hannamyluv




msg:1582370
 6:55 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

At this time, while I am apparently allowed to create ads and spend my money with them, I am "not authorized to view this page" when I visit the help. I guess they assume that if I managed to get that far, I don't need to see the help. ;)

breny




msg:1582371
 8:41 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

The help is doing that to me too. That bug was supposedly fixed a couple of days ago.

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[edited by: werty at 6:13 am (utc) on Mar. 7, 2006]
[edit reason] Removed URL - Please see TOS #13 [/edit]

webpublisher




msg:1582372
 1:27 am on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Good luck if you got the import function to work - all I got was an hour of pure frustration as the site kept hanging.

webpublisher




msg:1582373
 2:34 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

hannamyluv - you are spot on - there is no way to upload campaigns or orders.

All we can do is upload ads to an existing order for split testing. This is a poor solution because why can't the user be given the ability to split test like you can in Adwords.

All in all my first few hours in adcenter have been disappointing.

adCenter411




msg:1582374
 3:08 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

breny and hannamyluv - are you still having problems seeing the help pane? we did have that issue last week but fixed it. anyone else having that problem? i can't repro it here so let me know.

webpublisher - is the site still hanging for you? does it hang only when you're trying to import?

is anyone else having issues with the site hanging?

thanks,
adCenter411

webpublisher




msg:1582375
 3:39 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

adCenter411 - it was hanging last night. This morning I haven't had it hang, though I have been trying to find a way to upload my Google Adword campaign spreadsheets rather than manually set up campaigns and orders.

I'm sitting banging my head on the table saying NO No no - surely I don't have to manually enter each ad - please let be another way!

breny




msg:1582376
 7:43 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

AC411---the help was working again last night. I haven't tried it today.

hannamyluv




msg:1582377
 8:54 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm still hanging when I try to access help. It asks if I want to visit a page with secure and non-secure and then after I say yes, it gives me the not authorized message.

I'm with you on that one webpublisher. I am basically looking at transfering hundreds of ads over, each one is tightly focused with 5 to 10 KW phrases each (you know, like they tell you your suppose to do this). It's a super headache to have to do one at a time and the weather is getting way to pretty outside for me to spend time putting them up one by one right now.

I don't know why G (and now MSN) don't offer a nice ad upload feature like OV has. Man, if it wasn't for OV's upload, I am not sure I would do much with them at all as their interface is dog slow.

GlenB




msg:1582378
 10:04 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Has anyone had any luck using the upload spreadsheets with openoffice? I haven't been able to import using either .xls or .csv, and I'm wondering if it's because I'm not using Excel.

Tigerlilies




msg:1582379
 11:48 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

The help feature pane was popping up the 'permission needed to access' message today as well. It still needs to be fixed.

Also, in regards to the bulk upload process I've had problems because there are several different forms and examples located throughout the website. For example on the main page (yesterday) I was able to find a section titled "Friends of Yahoo & Google" which explained how to use the bulk downloads from Yahoo and Google to create a bulk upload for the adCenter... it was incomplete because it didn't explain which column to place the bid amount in. I can't find it online today so maybe it's been taken down. But I spent a good portion of my morning today attmepting to use the info I found yesterday to bulk upload the keywords.

I'm also having issues adding keywords using the 'Clipboard function'. I have copied items from my excel spreadsheet into the clipboard and it will not accept them. I've saved the files as .txt, .csv, .xls, and .doc and attempted to copy and paste from the clipboard and have failed each time. Any suggestions?

webpublisher




msg:1582380
 12:42 am on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

hannamyluv - I didn't know OV had a good upload tool. After a couple years of not using them (gave up with their editorial staff though I was there at the beginning with Goto in the good old days!) I revisited them a month ago. I was told I didn't spend enough to enable me to send in spreadsheets so as their staff could upload them. Is there a neat tool for importing spreadsheets?

Thanks

hannamyluv




msg:1582381
 2:54 am on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well, with OV, if you open up a new account, they will do a one time upload to get you started but you have to ask for it. But I spend enough with them monthly to get the upload all the time.

There are some tools that will convert adwords to OV, but I don't use them as I find it just as easy to get a few adwords reports and just cut and paste what need in excel. But I am pretty good with excel, so I do some stuff that makes it easy to cut and paste that's a little hard to explain clearly unless you see it.

Tigerlilies, at least you give me some hope. Maybe they have an upload feature but are still working on bugs with it.

I was okay with uploading the KWs with the spreadsheet but I found that I had to download the sheet from their site, add the KWs to it and then upload it. It would not work any other way. Also, if there are errors, you must re-browse for the file after you fix and save it or it won't work, even though the file path is the same. I could not get the clipboard to work either. I think with the KWs, I would justlike to see an easy form box that I can paste into. It is really just the easiest way. I think they tried to get a bit too fancy with the KW upload thing.

Tigerlilies




msg:1582382
 6:13 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Adcenter411- Is there anything in the works that would be a spreadsheet for a bulk-upload for starting accounts that would allow us to upload everything at once? Something similar to the Google Adwords bulk-upload...

hannamyluv-

Google is slowly rolling out bulk-download and upload features. I work for an agency and the bulk-download is slowly rolling out across the accounts we manage. About 10 of our accounts now have the download feature available. From what our Adwords rep said the ability to upload should start rolling out within the next couple of months. (I'll keep my fingers crossed.)

The Yahoo bulk download I thought was available for all accounts. I have opened accounts for our clients that were not linked to our agency account and the download feature was there and usable. The only issue we have is occasionally our keywords get rejected for duplication during the upload process. Then I just contact our rep and e-mail him the bulk-upload and he puts them through a separate approval process.

Tigerlilies




msg:1582383
 10:44 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Haha! I found the Friends of Goolgle/Yahoo section I was referring to yesterday--

[advertising.msn.com...]

If you look on this page it has a different set-up for the bulk upload form then the section in the BETA version of Adcenter.

Which one is correct because I can't get either of them to work for me.

Craig87




msg:1582384
 3:45 pm on Mar 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

I hate to bump this, but has anyone figured out the ads upload thing?

Given all the trouble we have had with MSN and the TOTAL lack of documentation regarding uploads and keyword tracking, I have a very unfavorable opinion of their system so far.

webpublisher




msg:1582385
 3:57 pm on Mar 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Craig87 - I believe we haven't. I've spent the every day since I signed up to Adcenter in Adwords because I had to use an upload interface that worked. I will revisit Adcenter in a day or two but only if there is a clear cut way to load 100s of ads without delay.

adCenter411




msg:1582386
 4:03 pm on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

hi everyone,
if you could let me know where in the import process you experience problems and what happens (do you get an error? etc.), i can try to figure out what's going on.

Tigerlilies -- we've received a lot of feedback about the import function and it's on our list of features but i'm not sure of an ETA - i will try to find out and let you know.

thanks,
adCenter411

ScottG13




msg:1582387
 7:56 pm on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Last time I tried the upload feature, it did not work. But that was prior to the most recent update. Anyone get it working since?

hannamyluv




msg:1582388
 8:15 pm on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

When I use the import feature, I can only get it to work if I download the excel file from the site, cut and paste in and name it "import". If I modify the file in anyway, such as deleting rows, collasping columns then uncollapsing them, renaming the file, closing the file and reopening it, I get an error that says "This file must be in excel or csv format" or something along those lines.

Once the file is uploaded, and it shows it has errors, I have about a 50/50 shot right now of being able to get the file that show the errors. Sometimes it opens the window and I get a little red x box and sometimes it opens the file. Then I have to fix the errors and go through the whole thing again. Download the file, cut and paste in, etc. Last week it seemed I could edit the file a little but just had to re-browse for it to reupoload it (despite the fact that the path in the form was exactly the same). If I did not re-browse, I would get the excel/csv error message. This week, that does not seem to be happening. The file seems to need to be created from the begining of the process.

BTW In regards to errors, it would be so much nicer if you just discarded the duplicates rather than forcing me to clean it up and have to go through this whole process again.

breny




msg:1582389
 8:56 pm on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I use the same process you do, hanna. I agree that they should ignore duplicates and keep going. I can't figure out what purpose it serves not to do so.

breny




msg:1582390
 8:57 pm on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ooops, I also meant to say that I also get the error message when trying to open the error file about half the time. I can keep trying or rerun the import function and sometimes get it to work.

webpublisher




msg:1582391
 9:03 pm on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

hannamyluv - you have it spot on. This is what happens to me and drove me to despair. Please let me know when it's fixed.

StupidScript




msg:1582392
 12:34 am on Mar 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Interesting.

I simply renamed my Excel file to "Import.xls" and the "Excel and comma-separated..." error went away, to be replaced by "The file contained errors..." message which told me that "Parameter 3 is greater than 30 chars."

In the instructions for params [advertising.msn.com] it states:

1. Under the parameter 1 column, copy your destination URL's from your original import file.
2. Under the parameter 2 column, copy your headlines from your original import file.
3. Under parameter 3, you will need to first, copy your description line 1 column, then separately copy each description line 2 in the same cells as the description line 1 column. MSN adCenter only uses one line for the ad description.

So:

Param 1 = Destination URL
Param 2 = Headline
Param 3 = Description Line 1 + Line 2 (70 chars. on G)

Definitely my Param 3s are longer than 30 chars, as they comprise the complete, 2-30char-line description from Google ads, as the instructions describe.

Maybe they're not set up to use this instruction, yet, and are currently only for {KEYWORD} substitutions, but nothing linke the doc states?

webpublisher




msg:1582393
 10:04 pm on Mar 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi everyone,

Is anyone successfully uploading ads to MSNAdCenter without problems. I plan to look into this tomorrow but won't bother if feedback comes back that this is still a frustrating experience.

I have had a few hundred clicks in the last few days on the 4 ads I set up a few weeks ago. I would now like to upload thousands of ads with as little fuss as possible. Just hoping I can download the spreadsheet, fill it in and upload - then move on - am I just dreaming at the moment?

TomWaits




msg:1582394
 3:07 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Took me about a 1/2 hour, but I got the upload tool to work. I gave up getting CSV to work, but the XLS worked.

webpublisher




msg:1582395
 12:31 am on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am currently manually adding new orders to an existing campaign.

Each order has one keyword, but with the 3 options.

Therefore I plod on adding each new order, I have about 2500 to add and I'm going stir crazy!

This is simply because I have the information in a spreadsheet but Adcenter doesn't allow me to upload a spreadsheet where each row would be a keyword with columns for the campaign and order names. Just like we have with Adwords.

I no longer see any functionality for uploading spreadsheets, except when you are in an existing order and want to upload keywords to just that order.

Please can someone remind me where it is? If it in fact exists?

I really need this feature if only to stop me going mad. Do MSN really think people are going to manually set up each & every order without the aid of proper upload features?

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