| 3:37 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)|
My impression after talking with an AdCenter UI person at SES was that Mozilla compatibility was definatly on the priority list for the team. Getting the interface functional and usefull is the top priority, but compatability is definately on the list.
I think they recognize that "pro-surfers" need more functionality that IE provides and they will eventually accomidate us.
Keep in mind, the whole program is still very much Beta.
| 4:25 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Speak for yourselves!
I consider my self a professional, and I use IE. I don't like Firefox nor Opera.
| 7:33 am on Feb 17, 2006 (gmt 0)|
|All those in favor of FireFox support, say 'Aye.' |
| 2:22 am on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Well... I'm having problems because portions of the site don't work in IE 7 beta OR Firefox... so I'm kinda SOL
| 3:53 am on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Didn't work in opera, so I had to dust off my copy of IE.
| 4:59 am on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)|
go on...say Aye!, boys.
| 7:49 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)|
What kind of backwards thinking would result in a product aimed at webmasters, but not accomodating the browser that a great percentage of them use?
| 8:01 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)|
come on everyone is on the growing popularity of using FF now, and I've tried IE7 and I think FF will still be the tabbed browser leader (not to mention its other great features). Biggest reason yet we dont use the msn roi code because its inability to work with FF.
| 7:45 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Firefox is widely used by early adopters and technical users. The general market lags behind.
With our analytics tools, we see this in our client's customers. If the product is a low-end consumer product, Firefox users are 1% or so. If it's a technical product, an expensive product, or similar, Firefox users jump up to 20-40%.
MSN should add support for Firefox. The browser wars are over. It's the search wars now.
| 11:38 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)|
based on our information about 10-12% of our customers are firefox users it has been ground about 2% per quarter. IE is around 74-80%
| 6:49 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)|
What type of product/service? We find it varies widely (and wildly) depending on the product. The more technical, the more Firefox. The less tech, the less Firefox.
| 1:13 pm on Mar 3, 2006 (gmt 0)|
My site is completely non-tech but has about 15% Firefox usage. IE is down around 70-75%.
And not to stray too far off topic, I also vote AYE for Firefox support. Although, with IE Tab installed, it doesn't make a lot of difference to me. ;)
| 1:24 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Note that they are forcing browser AND OS. While that's fine where most of you are starting from an MS OS, for those of us running Linux or Mac as their desktop it's a bit more problematic to run IE.
| 7:15 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
We use Firefox for various plugins that help us analyze websites. Also because it's our JOB to tell our clients when their web sites are 10% less productive than they should be.
I can fit Firefox on a USB stick - complete with plugins - and scare the pants off clients when they see their site outside IE. May want to try finding out what it does by downloading and trying it AdCentre411 :)
Brett might be able to tell you what percentage of WebmasterWorld users don't use IE - may be a surprise. True - we are not representative of the public, but we ARE representative of AdCentre's early user base.
| 8:16 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Hmmm... somehow... can't say that. Reason is very simple. People that are buyers on our site primarily use IE. People that copy our content and try to harm our business in various ways are using primarily FF! You tell me, how can I say "Aye"?
| 8:34 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Big nay on this side. I will avoid using FF until it becomes compatible with the rest of the web. I am puzzled by anyone who would prefer FF over IE. It is without a doubt not as functional.
| 1:08 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0)|
|Hmmm... somehow... can't say that. Reason is very simple. People that are buyers on our site primarily use IE. People that copy our content and try to harm our business in various ways are using primarily FF! You tell me, how can I say "Aye"? |
It is not the people seeing the ads that are the problem - it is they techie marketers that are using the back end interface... namely us.
| 4:26 pm on Mar 10, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Another vote for Firefox and Opera.
I cant go back to IE...please...don't make me.
As far as functionality, I had not used IE in months until I started with ad-center. I am not exactly sure what FF isn't function with.
| 4:39 pm on Mar 10, 2006 (gmt 0)|
|It is not the people seeing the ads that are the problem - it is they techie marketers that are using the back end interface... namely us. |
Yep, I know there a lot of reasons for such a situation to occur. But in the long run we deal with facts, not reasons. And the fact described above makes us not waste our time and resources to optimize our sites for FF!
| 3:28 am on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I use both IE AND FF
| 9:12 pm on Mar 19, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I vote for Mozilla support. I don't use FF b/c Mozilla has the built-in HTML editor and I find that handy.
Can we vote for that?
Just my $0.04 (inflation)
| 6:11 pm on Mar 20, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Just a heads up. I use IE Tab [ietab.mozdev.org] in Firefox to access MSN AdCenter. Seems to work quite well for gathering reports, at least. Sometimes acts funky in other areas. Still a nice tool to have in your SEM bag o' tricks.
| 1:27 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I don`t see more than 1-2% of people that use Firefox?
| 10:38 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)|
| 10:19 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Aye. But that's because I want to see MS respond to non-MS technology standards more than the fact that I use it. I use the "IE View" FF plugin for both Ad Center and Google Analytics, which is also funky in FF.
| 2:39 am on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Again I must take the opposite view of some members, especially the webmasters, techies and geeks here. If you are a webmaster or site owner that is an even stronger reason to stay with IE.
After all, at least 90% of the public and web-surfers use IE so the webmaster always needs to see exactly what the public sees and experiences, especially so when designing or running websites and giving support.
IMO you should stive to make your site and work 100% compatible with the #1 browser and forget all about the little used Firefox.
| 5:55 pm on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)|
| 6:02 pm on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)|
The question is whether this community might line up in support of hoping against hope that MSN AdCenter will eventually work with FireFox or any other (read: nearly every other) standards-compliant browser, and on operating systems other than Windows.
|make your site and work 100% compatible with the #1 browser |
Not possible. Each port and every configuration and version of that browser has its own rules ... not the standards. At the risk of getting off-topic, check out the CSS forum (and many other resources, including MS documentation) for issues regarding anything having to do with margins and padding and nested structures that use them. Of course every professional in these threads tests to see what kind of funk IE is inflicting on their well-coded pages, however it is not necessary to use that security-hole-riddled product as one's primary browsing tool.
This thread (IMHO) is a plea for MS to work to the standards everyone else is using and to acknowledge that many professionals use products other than MS products (read: Mac, Linux).