| 6:03 pm on Sep 7, 2005 (gmt 0)|
It is still a US-only beta. Your ads might show, but I don't think you will be able to get paid for them since you submitted false payment info.
| 6:08 pm on Sep 7, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I don't want money during the beta. Just wanted to check the system. I have friends in USA and can give their details to the yahoo.
Still wondering what to do?
One interesting thing I noticed in YPN is that when I clicked on one of the ads I got the message that the ad is only for US canada. This is gud for the advertisers(not in adsense I think)
| 7:00 pm on Sep 7, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|One interesting thing I noticed in YPN is that when I clicked on one of the ads... |
| 7:04 pm on Sep 7, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|I have friends in USA and can give their details to the yahoo. |
You need to have a tax ID, and your YPN income is reported to the government. I am sure your friends in the US don't want to be reported to the IRS for money they didn't make.
| 7:11 pm on Sep 7, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|when I clicked on one of the ads |
Guess that also explains why you are worried about them banning you.... never ever click your own ads, it applies to YPN as well as AdSense.
| 3:56 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
oh please I am a white hat webmaster. I clicked on the ad once just to check it....I guess 90% of the webmasters do that once in a while.
if your daily clicks are over 200, adsense or yahoo are not going to ban you for your one click.
anyways my idea was just to check the ads on my site. I think I will write a mail to yahoo and tell them what I have done.
They never had a country entry in the signup form. anyways lets see what they say.
| 8:40 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Yeah you are right Dear now I m also in yahoo publisher network. y'day I mailed them Regarding postal address problem coz in India there is 6 digit pin code scheme and in USA its only 5 digit. One interesting thing I found is that I m earning better than goggle. Itís really a great to be a part of Yahoo
| 8:44 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|oh please I am a white hat webmaster. |
So you clicked on an ad to "check it." What in the world were you checking for?
1: You misrepresented your residency to get in
2: You don't belong in there
3: You are scheming to stay in by misrepresenting your residence with the help of friends
4: You violated the rules by clicking your own ad
But you are a white hat, so that absolves you of your misrepresentations?
Look, I'm not trying to be rude to you so please don't take it that way. I say all the above only because you are in need of a reality check.
| 9:18 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Its okay critics are welcome,
As I said before that I joined coz I was excited for getting the invite and I think I am a white hat webmaster because:
I got in only to test it, why the hell did they sent an invite to an Indian.
Did you read the headline of this thread that clearly says I am an India, why will I sing it like a song across popular forums.
I wrote an email to YPN asking them to disable my account or tell me what to do if the international publishers are not allowed.
How you gonna test the reporting system of YPN without clicking on an ad...lets have a poll here and see how many publishers never ever clicked on any of their ad to test the system or you can go to adsense forum and read those thread that says ' oh god I clicked on my ad'
I use adsense and my CTR is not even 2%, and you know what I never tried to manipulate it. Money is not something I am running behind and that is one reason I call myself white hat webmaster. The sites that I run has quality and not ad blocks all around the pages.
May be the way I presented the issue has confused some of gud webmasters here so for once again let me tell you that the Idea was to test the system not to make money using the bad tricks.
| 12:58 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Welcome to the new definition of "white hat" in contextual advertising...
| 1:22 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|how many publishers never ever clicked on any of their ad to test the system |
Count me as one and I have a feeling I am in the majority. Accidental clicks are a different thing - "testing the system" is a deliberate click and really not allowed. Even if the idea was not for you to make money, it costs the advertiser money - why should they pay for you to test a system?
I tend to think that those serving the ads are the ones who should test their systems, I merely figure out how to make them work as best possible for me, within the TOS.
| 1:37 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
maybe I was wrong, but I knew it that my account will be cancelled and thats why I clicked.
I know many of you do not click on your own ads, how many among you discoverd that if you click on an ad from a place other than US canada you will get a nice msg from YPN saying that you are not allowed to click on the ad and the advertiser will not be charged.
I feel bad for the advertiser who has to pay for my testing...but I think I have to click on one ad atleast to see how fast the reports are updated.
May be that makes me a black hat webmaster. Sorry advertisers you will have to give me that 10 cents.
10 cents for adsense 10 cents for YPN and 10 cents for MSN.
| 2:47 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|y'day I mailed them Regarding postal address problem coz in India there is 6 digit pin code scheme and in USA its only 5 digit. |
Did you get special permission to beta YPN, even though you are not living in the US?
| 2:11 am on Sep 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|oh please I am a white hat webmaster. I clicked on the ad once just to check it....I guess 90% of the webmasters do that once in a while. |
Hmm, we could start a poll to see if you are correct on that 90% guess. I must be in the minority, because I've never clicked an advertisement on purpose. The two times that I accidently did (had too many windows open at the same time) I wrote Google and asked them to remove my click.
Besides, as a webmaster, I realize that I don't have to click an ad to "check it." What were you checking for anyway? How much you would get paid for your click?
| 2:18 am on Sep 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|I feel bad for the advertiser who has to pay for my testing...but I think I have to click on one ad atleast to see how fast the reports are updated. |
That's a stretch. You were invited into Y! and with 500,000 hits a month you could figure out which click was yours? And you did this because you wanted to see how fast the reports updated? I think you are insulting our intelligence.
Too bad the click was only a dime, better luck next time.
| 4:53 am on Sep 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
The site where I had put the ads never served any ads not even adsense. I clicked on the ad to check if the clicks are updated quickly...someone in this forum had mentioned that its on the fly while my immpressions were not getting updated.
I earned 10 cents from it. Once again, money was not the motto.
| 5:11 am on Sep 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
>> I earned 10 cents from it. Once again, money was not the motto.
if you rob the bank, it really doesn't matter why you did it. if you had a good reason--such as kids starving--maybe the judge will give you 9 years instead of 10, but you'll still be convicted.
| 5:59 am on Sep 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
here is the first email from judge:
This hardly helps, so I have again asked them what should I do....first day earnings are $28....I am asking them to take it back because I don't deserve it.
[edited by: Woz at 7:06 am (utc) on Sep. 9, 2005]
[edit reason] No email quotes please, see TOS#9 [/edit]
| 11:52 am on Sep 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I am also from India...and got a invite from Yahoo to signup for YPN. I did have the same problem when sigining up as indiangal and others mentioned. may be I should write to them and say this is the case and if its okay to proceed with it. Only the state part of it is mentioned wrong and also the SS number.
Indiangal - did you hear back from them by any chance? Please keep us posted.
I am considering to add the code tonight on all my sites...i mean atleast a couple of my popular portals.
Thanks for any help.
| 5:41 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
i have posted that i have received an application successful message today. anyone here who know their support email id where i can ask them for special permission?
| 6:04 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
"maybe I was wrong, but I knew it that my account will be cancelled and thats why I clicked."
So basically you wasted everybody's time at Yhoo. WTG dude...
| 4:53 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I hope we get a YPN representative to give us some feedback here.
| 6:58 am on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)|
As an advertiser with Yahoo/Overture, I only hope they they finally allow us to choose wether or not we want our ads shown on Contextual pages.
I for one will choose NO to showing any of my ads due to the enormous amount of flagrant clicks, and the absolute 0 ROI. Contextual advertising is absolutely worthless to the advertisers and only benefits the search engine and publishers.
This has been my #1 gripe with Yahoo!/Overture for the past 2 years, and until your spending $15k per month with them I really dont want to hear how your $300 campaign turns over great with their contextual advertising cause its total BS.
| 8:49 am on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)|
No reply from yahoo so far. I am sending one more email today. I kept taking the ads off my pages so that I don't cross $100...now I have the ads only on one page so that I can optimise my site for YPN before its launched.
I hope they will reply soon. or else I will call their phone support guy.
Can anyone tell me if YPN phone guys are of any help?