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Does Yahoo pay for International Clicks
rookiecrd1




msg:1576282
 5:40 pm on Jun 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm a little confused. Do publishers get paid when international (non US) users click the ads?

 

wyweb




msg:1576283
 8:57 pm on Jun 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

no

icwiener




msg:1576284
 2:10 am on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

The YPN Terms and Conditions says:

"Abuse of Services. You agree not to:
...
11. display all or part of the Ad Unit to any user located outside the US;"

Does this mean I have to block IP addresses from outside the US from seeing my YPN ads?

If so, how?

humblebeginnings




msg:1576285
 5:07 pm on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

[webmasterworld.com...]

Here's another thread suggesting that YPN even bootes publishers for having international visitors.

jameswross




msg:1576286
 1:30 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think the general understanding is that you may get paid for international clicks, but you will also get banned if you have very many of them.

We hope to see some sort of geo-targetting done server side w/ yahoo in the future, or eventually after beta is over, yahoo opening up the market to everyone.

Theres about a billion threads about international traffic to reference.

icwiener




msg:1576287
 2:40 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

So is there a list of IP vs Countries out there? Or am I going to have to pay a 3rd party company for this service?

This seems kinda ridiculous that ypn will ban you for this. If they know the IP's why don't they block them. Seems like it would be very easy for them to do.

gregbo




msg:1576288
 8:54 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

There are several companies that provide IP-to-country (and sometimes finer granularity) mappings, and some other services that provide that information for free. However, geotargeting is not 100% reliable; in some cases, it may not be sufficiently reliable to provide either an advertiser or publisher with strong guarantees that their traffic originates where the mapping services say it does.

See [webmasterworld.com...] for more information.

John Carpenter




msg:1576289
 3:48 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

It would be acceptable if Yahoo just returned the money to advertisers whose ads where displayed to non-US visitors (however crazy that is). But referring to this as "Abuse of Services" and banning the publisher is just incredible.

We are very satisfied with AdSense but thought that we might give Yahoo a try. But now we will think twice whether to even test their program.

gregbo




msg:1576290
 9:41 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

I checked YPN's TOS and couldn't find anything that indicated they'd terminate an account for too much international traffic. Assuming that they actually do terminate accounts for such reasons, it seems unreasonable to me, especially since Internet architecture experts do not agree on how accurate the methods are of indicating that a given web access comes from a given country.

icwiener




msg:1576291
 11:05 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone know of a case where someone was banned for not blocking international traffic?

John Carpenter




msg:1576292
 8:14 am on Jun 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone know of a case where someone was banned for not blocking international traffic?

I've seen posts from several people here claiming Yahoo banned them for something like displaying the ads to "too many international" visitors.

wyweb




msg:1576293
 7:44 am on Jun 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

There's a good script at clippersoft that allows you to geotarget your ads... much more user friendly and not nearly as weighty as phpAdsNew.

I had not been using it. I've been with YPN since 10/04 and never filtered my ads. After the myspace boots I got paranoid and put this script in. Immediately saw a substantial drop in daily earnings. CTR, CPM and RPC all went up however indicating I was getting rewarded for better quality traffic, or at least that's what I think it indicates. Apparently I have a lot of international traffic judging by impressions after the geotarget was implemented. It's a wonder I haven't been booted already. This test hasn't gone on long enough to get any meaningful numbers from it but I'm gonna let it run a little while longer and see how it pans out. I'm using adsense as my alternate ads and getting seriously hosed with .4 cent clicks now. Smart priced and the foreign factor make it almost not worth even having adsense on my sites. Too much work to replace them though...

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