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I was banned yesterday for 1 picture, a publisher that does 6 figures
thomor25




msg:1575409
 6:07 pm on Apr 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

well it looks like I was banned, One of the sites I own is a photo host. Someone uploaded a porn picture. I'm going to be honest here, I made alot of money from them, in the #*$!,xxx range monthly. I have over 15 sites to which I have ads on. I tried comprimising with them and even told them that I would remove their ads from that site completely and they said no. They said it was a business decision, what kind of business turns down making 6 figures a month by doing nothing at all? They say they are willing to work with publishers and they are excited and this and that aobut this new program. They don't care about us. They don't even care about the big publishers. I made them enough this year to pay for 3 or 4 people ssalary's at yahoo. To have your whole life, what you built up with your hands, what you planned the rest of your life on, come crashing down cause a guy behind a desk pushed a button and turned off your account. For me this was my sole source of income, I left my job to do this fulltime. I'm depressed, I don't know what to do, I don't know where to go. Its unjust and unfair what they did to me, because of 1 picture, no comprimise, no calling me, nothing just an email to say goodbye sorry for the #*$!ty life you will have to go back to now. Truthfully I expected more from a company such as yahoo. I guess I was wrong, about a lot of things.

 

walkman




msg:1575439
 6:41 am on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am guessing some reported it...unless Google has a search for click+ads+google search for adsense sites and checks it at least randomly

wildbest




msg:1575440
 8:30 am on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

...why is everyone thinking its something else. Is it the fact people think I'm lying or think ypn is lying to me? I haven't done anything wrong on any of my sites, the photo thing could only be the possible thing. I don't violate anything else in this tos.

My best guess:
A big (really big) advertiser must have lodged a complaint with YPN about massive amount of clicks but very low quality traffic coming from your site! Shortly, there must be a suspicion about artificial or incentivized clicks. There are quite a number of shadow practices that can not be proved in a straight manner. That is why they'd prefer to point at a reason that may not carry conviction but is beyond discussion.

asp4bunnies




msg:1575441
 1:52 pm on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes, there is no doubt someone complaining to Yahoo! that precipitated this. That especially makes sense since for the time being advertisers have no way of just blocking out certain sites from displaying their ads (and they really should). So Yahoo has to take the all or nothing approach with the publisher to make them happy until Overture offers that ability.

JoshInTX




msg:1575442
 2:04 pm on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

I would have made over half a million dollars this year from them and lord knows how much they would have made from me.

They said it was a business decision, what kind of business turns down making 6 figures a month by doing nothing at all?

Am I the only one who was reading through this thread and thought to myself "I call BS on this guy"?

If you were making 6 figures a month, at the least it would be $100,000 per month = 1.2 Million per year. Quite a bit OVER half a million!

I make far less then 6 figures a month, and I have my own account rep who called me to get introduced and let me know that if I needed anything to let her know. I have called her multiple times and she has been very helpful and fixed a lot of little things for me.

I just find this story very hard to believe, and the quotes above are a big hole in it.

newguy1




msg:1575443
 5:46 pm on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

JoshInTX I have to agree, I think a lot of the story is fact, but from my own experience some things are just not making any sense.

I don't make anywhere near 6 figures per month and I've gotten polite calls and emails from ypn about possible content issues, though, they were squared away without issue.

There had to be something else going on that you missed. I suppose that ypn could have changed their techniques with handling problems but this seems drastic.

When you switch to adsense I'd email them and get a system in place to prevent this type of thing from happening again. Maybe it means a drop in revenue or monitizing your pages with aff or cpm, but I wouldn't just put the ad code up on the site and let it run blindly until you give the network reason to suspend the account ;)

asp4bunnies




msg:1575444
 6:55 pm on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think he meant he's made half a million more for them if they used him for the rest of the year. He's probably being legitimate regarding the amounts here.

I still don't understand why he doesn't have a personal rep though.

jameswross




msg:1575445
 7:05 pm on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

What is the general range that you get a personal account rep?

I make middle 5 digits range and I ocassionally get calls from YPN but don't have a personal account rep.

thomor25




msg:1575446
 8:26 pm on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm being truthful here guys, there is no holes. I was making 6 figures, this month has been horrible for alot of publishers including me. Going from over 2$ a click last month to around 1.20 this month kinds cuts your rev in half. I was saying over half due to the fact of the current trend and expecting it to stay constant/as bad as it is this month.

I could post screenshots but then someone would call photoshop bull. I just got 1 pms from other yahoo publisher that they have been canned for a stupid reason like this as well. Looks like there is an uproar in the ypn network and they are cutting publishers left and right.

I also had talked to someone at yahoo and they said that someoen was gonna call me about getting a dedicated ad rep and I got no such call, I talked ot them about it and how others making less had them and they said that resources are spread thin in their netowrk as is due to the fact of devoting more money to the it side of it instead of the ad rep site to bring it out of beta as soon as possible.

[edited by: jatar_k at 10:49 pm (utc) on April 27, 2006]
[edit reason] no names thanks [/edit]

jameswross




msg:1575447
 5:35 am on Apr 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm not calling bull at all, I'm sure it prob. did happen that way; sorry to hear for you man...

All of us with bigger networks of sites can only hope!

John Carpenter




msg:1575448
 4:34 pm on Apr 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

thomor25, did you display Google ads before YPN?

thomor25




msg:1575449
 7:34 pm on Apr 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

yes, I've been with adsense since they started.

gamiziuk




msg:1575450
 12:42 am on Apr 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Don't forget, MSN just started an Ad Publisher network too!

kempozone




msg:1575451
 2:31 am on Apr 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Don't forget, MSN just started an Ad Publisher network too!

Has this been confirmed yet?

wmuser




msg:1575452
 12:36 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thomar25 its maybe the time to switch to Adsense
With $xx.#*$! you can even apply for Premium account
Also you can apply for Kanoodle PPC and some others as well
Overall thats not the end of the life,move on!
Sticky me if you need some advice or something

gamiziuk




msg:1575453
 1:02 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Don't forget, MSN just started an Ad Publisher network too!

Has this been confirmed yet?

Confirmed?

You don't have to take my word for it, check out Forum 114 [webmasterworld.com]

MostWanted




msg:1575454
 4:21 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well here is the wierd thing...
As of today, I checked the YPN Blog and Photobucket is in the spotlight, well if you do a search on photobucket for something like boob look what you find.... hmmm... check for yourself...
I don't think you should been banned for that one picture if these guys are in the spotlight...

My Opinion.

asp4bunnies




msg:1575455
 9:39 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

That's adCenter for advertisers. There is nothing for publishers yet.

wmuser




msg:1575456
 9:49 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

There are thouzands of adult pictures on Photobucket but rarely Yahoo will ever terminate their account

MostWanted




msg:1575457
 10:01 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

If it's for advertisers then why does it say Yahoo Publisher's Network for the title of the page?

[ypnblog.com...]

MostWanted




msg:1575458
 10:04 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

but yea wmuser, they have thousands of nude pics on there... But my question is why is it that they get special treatment than thomor25 when he's bringing in 6 figs? Could you imagine what they are bringing in off of him? lol it's crazy!

wmuser




msg:1575459
 10:24 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

MostWanted sure but Myspace must be making them much more of they have a special agreement or who know what else could it be?
There are a lot is things happening behind the scenes

thomor25




msg:1575460
 10:28 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well since I posted this I've learned that about 10-20 other large publishers were terminated for other weird or stupid reasons. There are people talking about it over at #*$! too.

JuniorOptimizer




msg:1575461
 8:41 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

When $100,000 is at stake, get a lawyer. I wouldn't give that money up without a fight.

asp4bunnies




msg:1575462
 2:59 pm on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

They are paying him JO. Read the post.

ann




msg:1575463
 10:53 am on May 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

I checked out that forum and it still refers to man's adcenter for advertisers.

Ann

ann




msg:1575464
 11:41 am on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

oops, I meant MSN's not man's.

humblebeginnings




msg:1575465
 10:24 pm on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I can see what's on your mind Ann;-)
See you at the Guygle Adsense forum;-)

ann




msg:1575466
 10:42 am on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

LOL!

ann




msg:1575467
 2:02 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Didn't the OP say he also had some myspace sites?

They are terminating their accounts quickly and it does not matter if the publisher has other sites or not.

[edited by: jatar_k at 3:56 pm (utc) on May 10, 2006]
[edit reason] no urls thanks [/edit]

hansm




msg:1575468
 11:48 am on May 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you read this thread good im already getting to know the problem.

Read today all forums about yahoo and what am i reading MYSPACE SITES ALL KICKED OUT.

you have myspace sites. im 1000% sure this is the main issue and not your picture. its just a smart way of kicking you out.

aah im happy im not using yahoo. im using adsense and yes they let people fix the problem. i had adult pics once and had a chance to fix it. never had any more issues with adsense. earnings are $5000+ monthly so may not complain.

was thinking to go using YPN thru a friends account but i think i give up after reading horrible stories.

jahfingers




msg:1575469
 1:58 am on May 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

MYSPACE SITES ALL KICKED OUT

What do you mean by a "myspace site"?

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