webnoob
msg:1574641 | 1:49 pm on Sep 28, 2005 (gmt 0) |
well i just read: "After implementation, it may take one to two days before ads start appearing on your site." so i have to leave the code on the page? and i'll just get a big gap with no ad for 2 days? this sucks..
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newguy1
msg:1574642 | 5:20 pm on Sep 28, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I had generic ads up within two or three hours and targetted ads up in about 12 hours.
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howiejs
msg:1574643 | 3:04 pm on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0) |
This is an issue for "active" sites / pages . . . at least a broad / site themed target should be thrown up (like Google does)
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MediaSpree
msg:1574644 | 3:47 pm on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0) |
been 24 hours since i signed up and still generic ads :) waiting... waiting...
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ownerrim
msg:1574645 | 3:43 am on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0) |
same here. over a day. but...the YPN FAQ says that they have to crawl your site first. This sounds good. Unlike adsense which seems to "forget" what your site is about, perhaps YPN will remember via a stored record as to what your site is about.
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MediaSpree
msg:1574646 | 4:46 pm on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0) |
48 hours...no ads :) Yahoo crawls my site daily, I wonder why they can't use that data?
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webnoob
msg:1574647 | 6:42 pm on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0) |
my ads started displaying a few hours after, but it's day 3 and they aren't targeted at all.
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ownerrim
msg:1574648 | 2:45 am on Oct 1, 2005 (gmt 0) |
ads here are still completely untargeted. jeez, even adsonar was better than this.
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MediaSpree
msg:1574649 | 5:13 pm on Oct 1, 2005 (gmt 0) |
72 hours...
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ownerrim
msg:1574650 | 5:26 pm on Oct 1, 2005 (gmt 0) |
day 4 and still no targeted ads. sure glad I only put their ad code on a few pages.
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webnoob
msg:1574651 | 8:41 pm on Oct 1, 2005 (gmt 0) |
same here, day 4 - non targeted ads. i only have 1 ad on the main page and it'll be the only ad i add until i see this targeting fixed..
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ownerrim
msg:1574652 | 11:42 pm on Oct 1, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I emailed ypn and got a pretty quick response back. Apparently, they're going to check into what the problem might be.
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MediaSpree
msg:1574653 | 1:55 pm on Oct 2, 2005 (gmt 0) |
good idea. I just did the same :) keep us posted
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MediaSpree
msg:1574654 | 8:41 pm on Oct 2, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Update: Well they emailed a reply which said: "We are sorry to hear about the irrelevant ads you are seeing so far. We see that you are not currently using the Ad Targeting feature. This will provide you with relevant ads. Ad Targeting is a feature of the Yahoo! Publisher Network that allows you to identify the types of ads that you believe your visitors will find most appealing." So I tried ad targeting. I chose the closest category I coudl target. Well the ads changed from completely generic to slighly less generic but still ads that I could not see anyone clicking on other than by accident. I tired a few other categories as well and still same untargeted ads. I emailed a reply asking if I should wait longer for their spider to come or throw in the towel. I haven't heard a reply back :)
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webnoob
msg:1574655 | 9:13 pm on Oct 2, 2005 (gmt 0) |
well when i signed up it asked for the category, which i selected games/gaming. so i thought i didn't have to edit the ad targeting form... now i check and i don't even see a games/gaming category under this target category u mentioned.... ugh ...
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MediaSpree
msg:1574656 | 8:28 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0) |
hey ownerrim and webnoob, Any word yet from yahoo? We all seem to be in the same boat here. I put another email into them this morning but have not yet heard back.
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webnoob
msg:1574657 | 10:35 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0) |
well, i submitted a ticket yesterday and they gave me a call today., they said my ads are "partly relevant" to my content.. example: if my site is about boats i get fishing rod ads just because they figure if you got a boat you might be interested in fishing rods lol ... they said it is beta so they're still tweaking, etc.. i don't know how relevant your ads are but the example i gave above is the situation i am in.
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MediaSpree
msg:1574658 | 1:07 am on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0) |
"Partly Relevant" thats nice. Mine is about a certain health realted issue and all I can get is loan offers and credit card ads. I kind of want to point to my Google ads on the other pages and say "Look, do what they're doing!"
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ownerrim
msg:1574659 | 2:34 am on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Mediaspree, loan offers and credit cards here too. My site has nothing to do with either. I am now running their adcode on just one page. I see no reason why I should lose money while waiting for YPN to figure out what my pages are about. And no response to the email I sent them a couple of days ago. I guess it will be a while before YPN becomes a real threat to adsense.
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turbo996
msg:1574660 | 5:18 pm on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Ads starting showing immediately after I placed the code on my site six days ago. The ads displayed by Yahoo were completely off-topic. I've tried ad targeting, but it only moderately improved relevancy. Overture's bid tool shows more than 20 bids for my targeted keywords, yet none of these ads show up on my site. Yahoo's search engine places me on the first page of results for my targeted keywords, so they can determine the proper context of my site, I just haven't experienced it yet with YPN Ads. So far, click through has been non-existent. I previously ran AdSense on the site and my users experienced highly relevant ads and as a result, I received double digit CTR. Its Beta, so I'm willing to forgive for awhile, but I'm hesitant to put YPN ads on any of my medium and high traffic sites until the relevancy issues are resolved. I did contact Yahoo, via phone, and they are aware of the issue. They were quite pleasant to deal with and the follow-up acknowledgement email sent by the agent was prompt. Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.
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webnoob
msg:1574661 | 7:20 pm on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0) |
> Overture's bid tool shows more than 20 bids for my targeted keywords, yet none of these ads show up on my site. speaking of which, the advertiser's max bid is what, the amount they're willing to spend per click?
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sailorjwd
msg:1574662 | 8:29 pm on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I just got into YPN today and put the ads on three pages. Targetted ads started showing within several minutes. Now anxiously awaiting the stats to show me $$. This might work out great because the Adsense targeting went haywire on a few good earning pages that then stopped earning totally and Y picked up good ads.
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turbo996
msg:1574663 | 8:48 pm on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0) |
The site that I have the ads on is a niche site. This morning I added a second entry to the ad targeting and now I'm getting ads that are closer. To use an example: If the content of my site was about Acme toilet seats, which are found in a home, the YPN ads would be about dining room light fixtures and garage doors. It would be better if some of the ads were at least about bathrooms. Hopefully, our collective feedback on targeting will help Yahoo to improve.
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jahfingers
msg:1574664 | 12:46 am on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0) |
3+ days to target ads on one page I put YPN ads on. I'm not going to give up 3 days of earnings on any more of my pages/sites. I'll be waiting until Yahoo speeds up the targeting.
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MediaSpree
msg:1574665 | 1:27 am on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| Hopefully, our collective feedback on targeting will help Yahoo to improve. |
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That is, I think, the point of the beta testing ;) On the same note a week has gone by without targeted ads (only running on one page currently) I am in contact with Yahoo and while the staff is friendly I seem to have to nudge them as to why i think my ads are not targeted. Today I showed them my google ads and said "Here, Show ads like this" of which there are plenty in the overture database. Still waiting to hear back from them...
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ownerrim
msg:1574666 | 3:42 pm on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0) |
update: no email response from YPN and the ads are still way off-target.
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MediaSpree
msg:1574667 | 5:45 pm on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Yahoo customer service can't seem to grasp what a targeted ad is. I show them my adsense ads which are very well targeted and then compare them to the Yahoo ads. All they can respond is your ads are targeted to the category you chose in ad targeting. Ok, well what about context targted ads? The categories are way to broad to generate any sort of interest for people who woudl be at my site. My site is about 1 certain medical condition. When I choose the ad targeting category "Medical Conditions" I get ads for any and all medical conditions which my readers woudl not care about and thus no clicks. When I remove ad targeting I get Loan Offers and Credit Card. Very frustrating so far dealing with Yahoo.
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webnoob
msg:1574668 | 6:22 pm on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0) |
well... they understood when i said 'my ads aren't relevant to my content' anyway, i am hanging in there because i am seeing the sunny side compared to Adsense when it comes to earnings even though the ads aren't relevant. imagine if they were...
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ownerrim
msg:1574669 | 7:27 pm on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0) |
"When I choose the ad targeting category "Medical Conditions" I get ads for any and all medical conditions which my readers woudl not care about and thus no clicks. When I remove ad targeting I get Loan Offers and Credit Card. Very frustrating so far dealing with Yahoo. Seeing very much the same here. So far, I wouldn't even think about entrusting any more of my pages to ypn ads. Hope they can get it together or they'll have zero chance of being an adsense competitor.
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