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eSense (Chimera)
Mozzila/4.0 (Compatible); www.vigil.com/esensedisclaim.html
mattur




msg:398925
 12:40 pm on Mar 28, 2001 (gmt 0)

Anyone know about this spider?

eSense (Chimera); Mozzila/4.0 (Compatible); www.vigil.com/esensedisclaim.html

I've visited their website but hard to find any info amongst marketese. One of our sites has had 1500 requests from them this month on a 200 (static) page site.

 

littleman




msg:398926
 6:11 pm on Mar 29, 2001 (gmt 0)

I've seen traces of it in other people's stats, but I really don't have any good info. Do you have an IP or host name?

PeteU




msg:398927
 12:09 am on Mar 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

from their site "by visiting your site, we promote traffic to your site by highly-qualified professionals"

translation: you will be visited by trademark lawyers or other money hungry bottom feeders

;)

mattur




msg:398928
 11:00 am on Mar 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

The spider comes from multiple IP addresses including 192.115.137.202, 192.115.136.15, 64.28.94.71.

It does always check the robots.txt file first. I could block it, but I don't want to if it is actually providing some commercial value to my client.

I've emailed Vigil's "Marketing Communications Director", I'll post any additional info I get back.

Eric_Lander




msg:398929
 3:48 pm on Apr 3, 2001 (gmt 0)

I just found this sneaking around a site of mine this morining. Any feedback from the email you had mentioned?

I'm interested in gaining some significant traffic if possible.

Thanks for the provided info above too!

mattur




msg:398930
 12:41 pm on Apr 4, 2001 (gmt 0)

Well, I've had a reply from Vigil, excerpt below. I'm still unclear on what they're actually doing, but prepared to give the spider benefit of the doubt for the time being.

"e-Sense locates hundreds (sometimes thousands) of sites that are candidates of interest vis a vis a client's business landscape. These sites come to the attention of e-Sense in many ways, including: 1) the site is LINKED TO by another site of interest; 2) the way the site (and key terms) are indexed by a major search engine; or 3) the site LINKS TO another site of interest. e-Sense then does a pretty exhaustive study (all done by our technology, not by people) to evaluate the site to see if it's really providing information relevant to the user's interests."

"If e-Sense finds a page that is relevant to a client's landscape, the title of the html page (with the link to the site)and a small excerpt will then be delivered to the client. The client can then connect directly to the page to read it in full. In this way, we can actually drive traffic to a site that is relevant to an area of interest for a client. Often, e-Sense locates sites of which our customers were previously unaware."

"Not knowing the actual site e-Sense visited, I can't speculate on the potential interest in this example. If your client's site isn't of great relevance to the our customer's landscape, you might see traffic for just a few days, as e-Sense 'realizes' that the site isn't highly targeted. I want to underscore that e-Sense found your site automatically -- it was not specifically targeted in any way -- so this is being done by technology, not by humans."

jeremy goodrich




msg:398931
 1:18 pm on Apr 4, 2001 (gmt 0)

These guys have been wasting my bandwidth for a while.

Last time I read their site, I didn't see the "driving traffic to your pages" part of it, but to me, that doesn't change anything.

I have no way of quanifying the traffic they might drive, or even if it will arrive at the sites I'm trying to promote. So, their sucking down my bandwidth doesn't make sense to me, and how can I tell a client, "your traffic is highly qualified," when I don't even know if these business people are really in the market for what my clients offer?

Just my thoughts.

Jeremy

Eric_Lander




msg:398932
 1:35 pm on Apr 4, 2001 (gmt 0)

Jeremy, I just want to say that I agree whole-heartedly to your most recent comments. THere is no justification or pride in a service that seemingly throws multiple links at it's subscribers simply to promote traffic flow.

Maybe the world of useless bot patrol is hitting us now... Who knows. It just seems to me that I want to promote quality user sessions. NOT quantity.

And for the record, this Vigil bot has returned yet again... Suprising? Nope.

msgraph




msg:398933
 1:42 pm on Apr 4, 2001 (gmt 0)

>>>translation: you will be visited by trademark lawyers or other money hungry bottom feeders.

Yep, most of their customers are pretty much trademark and copyright sniffers.

I have been serving them 403 pages for the past three months and they are still spidering the sites.

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