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XP SP2 Causes Incompatibilities with a Horde of Programs
Read this BEFORE you download it...

 8:00 am on Aug 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Microsoft has published a list [support.microsoft.com], of programs that may be incompatible with SP2.

The following is a small sample of affected software programs:

  • McAfee Internet Security Suite 2004
  • Freehand 8 (German)
  • Quicken 2003 Premier Home and Business
  • Quicken Deluxe 2001
  • HP Quick Launch Buttons
  • AOL 9
  • Photoshop Elements 2
  • PageMaker 7
  • Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
  • Norton Antivirus 2003
  • Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition
  • Yahoo Messenger
  • ZoneAlarm 5.0.590

Some of the issues reportedly may not be noticeable. Seems like MS could have worked the bugs out before releasing it...



 9:12 am on Aug 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Seems like MS could have worked the bugs out before releasing it...

And thereby change corporate policy on releases ...in our dreams!
The new "patch" ( damn near anew OS in the way it works ) generally wreaks havoc with all "objects" ...I was talking to a guy at a major security company ( size of s*mantec ) who is responsible for the roll out of the installation at his place ...the list of what it breaks is humungous ...but for most home users they will not notice until they try to use something that Redmond didn't make ...like Martini busters list ...

Not much point in being a partner developer ( adobe , macromedia et al ) with M$ if they trash your app very time they patch their code ..


 9:17 am on Aug 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

There was a vicious article in the Times (of London, the "real" one :)) about XP SP2, and how it can cause your computer to crash. According to the author, MS response was that "it was a simple manual port opening", but couldn't tell him what that meant!


 2:07 am on Aug 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

According to PCWorld [pcworld.com]:
...(Microsoft) has already begun releasing fixes for problems that the mammoth update can cause, however inadvertently. The company has issued what is likely the first of several "hotfix" patches, which developers and analysts say are just a fact of PC life.

There are reportedly two security holes [pcworld.com] in the patch:

Security researchers inspecting a new update to Microsoft's Windows XP found two software flaws that could allow virus writers and malicious hackers to sidestep new security features in the operating system.

My dad always told me never to buy the first iteration of a vehicle, as they always seem to have problems. Same seems to hold for the first version of MS patches.

Hold on to your skirts girls!


 2:34 am on Aug 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Most of the problems listed are caused by the XP firewall being turned on by default. Any other firewall or program that uses a non-standard port will have problems.
The fix is simple as MS puts a temporary icon in the task bar for adjusting the security features.
The first thing I did on all five installs was to shut off the XP firewall. It's only half of a firewall anyway.
The next thing I did was to shut down and rename the old MSN messenger.
I did the updates on the 10th and 11th and have not had a single problem with any of the programs on any of the machines.
Of course I don't have AOL of any of the machines.


 2:47 am on Aug 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

FWIW - I have XP SP2 - and Norton Antivirus 2003 / NIS - and i have not had any problems.


 9:33 am on Aug 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

FWIW - I have XP SP2 - and Norton Antivirus 2003 / NIS - and i have not had any problems.

I have XP SP2 and Norton AV 2003 on my laptop. No problems whatsoever.

I have XP SP2 and Norton AV 2003 on few other machines. One machine is getting BSOD (Blus screen of death) every second time I boot. Another machine is getting BSOD at a frequency of once a week.

Have paused SP2 updates on other machines :(


 6:31 pm on Aug 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

<Knock on Wood> no errors for me w/ my SP2 test machine. It's doing a lot better than when I tested it with a beta release. Still... I just can't believe that they are having problems with such prominent applications! Looks like a BIG lack of planning.


 6:58 pm on Aug 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

I upgraded earlier today and all signs (so far) are positive!


 1:10 pm on Aug 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Whew, I finished Max Payne 2 a few months ago.


 12:41 pm on Sep 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Photoshop Elements 2
Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne

Does anyone know the exact problems with these? What about Elements 1?

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