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Macromedia's "The Online Advertising Experience Matters"
New advertising initiative

WebmasterWorld Senior Member korkus2000 us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 198 posted 1:31 pm on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Macromedia, Inc. today kicked off "The Online Advertising Experience Matters," a community initiative to create more effective online ad campaigns, better consumer perception, and increased adoption of online ads. At the Macromedia Flash Advertising Alliance (MFAA) sponsored Ad Experience Symposium today in New York, industry leaders in online advertising including DoubleClick, FCBi, Gartner, iDeutsch, OgilvyInteractive, and Yahoo! will discuss how to improve the ad experience with industry colleagues from leading agencies, publishers, and technology providers

So did they discuss removing movies that dance out of their container and conceal content? Flash ads can work great as long as they don't annoy and frustrate a visitor. I hope they take this issue seriously.



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Msg#: 198 posted 4:04 pm on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Damn Macromedia if that crappy Flash stuff crashes my machine again. The only if Flashes is the blue screen of death.


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Msg#: 198 posted 1:59 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I hope they take this issue seriously.

They won't. As long as they get any kind of positive response (clicks) whatsoever they won't. I can never figure out what they base their strategy on - being obnoxious or actual statistics - but if there's something new, obtrusive, kenetic, and irritating - I think they convince themselves it was (the most negative element of) the campaign idea that "worked".

This is why we endure pop-ups, pop-unders, delayed pop-ups, and... nasty, nasty Flash banners. SOMEBODY responds and that only legitimizes their existence. It has nothing to do with what we (consumers) think we want or what we say we want, or even what we shake our fists in anger about. Clicks = Money = Successful Ad Strategy. If it obscures the screen, I guess they think, "So what?"

Ask any consumer how to "improve our ad experience" and most will say, "Kill the ads". After all, who likes television commercials? But, there's no-money in no-ads, so that's unrealistic. So, now Flash is the hot ad gimmick because enough people click them for the ad agencies to continually push the envelope for response. They float, they dance, they change shape, etc. The ad people trade business cards, go to conferences, network, and share ideas... all resulting in a more miserable experience for the "consumer" (us).

I'm waiting for a mouse that periodically hits me with electroshock to buy a new car or some such ilk as I'm reading CNN news online. They'll take it as far as they can go, no matter that we protest.


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Msg#: 198 posted 8:08 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

www.whatisflash.com launched recently. It is very anti-flash ads. But wants to improve appropriate usage of flash. The amazing thing is, as soon as whatisflash.com launched, and it launched amid a flurry of discussions by alot of developers outraged at the proliferation of obnoxious ads. The fear seemed to me to be these ads causing people to more readily utilize flash blocking software. More of this blocking software makes a mockery of Macromedia's penetration claims. Macromedia quickly took notice of this as evidenced by macromedia employees writing about it in thier blogs. It was a big deal and very interesting to watch macromedia switch to spin doctor mode. I suspect them to continue to promote flash as a valuable product in web advertising.

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