| 6:01 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I smoked American Spirits almost exclusively for years before I quit smoking. Once you get used to them, every thing else tastes like you're sucking on the smokestack of a chemical factory.
Winstons are now also additive free, but they still manage to taste like absolute garbage. There's no substitute for a pack of American Spirits, and last I checked you could get them online for less than $20USD/carton.
Which brings me to one of my favorite random musings: why do chemical/additive FREE products always cost more than their chemical choked cousins? Aren't the manufacturers saving money by not adding all the artificial garbage to the product?
| 6:13 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Actually, it is probably like SPAM vs. Steak. The spam is all fillers and preservatives, and it is therefore much less expensive to produce. But who wants SPAM over a steak?
| 6:14 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Very interesting to hear that you have shared the experience.
More importantly, where can I buy them online at $20 per carton? ;)
In the UK they are just over £5 for a pack of 20 as they are not made under licence in this country.
In answer to your question, the manufacturers must believe that by adding the chemicals it will make you smoke more. Perhaps this is so, but they taste like SH*T. I think we are going to see a reversal of the trend. I wonder what market share 'American Spirit' now have. The big boys won't be able to ignore it - the bloodsuckers!
If I was involved in the tobacco industry, I would be looking for ways to increase smoking enjoyment - as most smokers IMO only smoke because of their mental and physical addiction.
| 6:20 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
stavs, check your StickyMail! :)
SPAM vs. Steak
Eww... Yeah, I guess recycling other people's garbage is cheaper than buying your own whole ingredients.
| 6:23 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
All the chemical additives that would seem to add to the product cost may enable them to use lower quality "core ingredients" (tobacco). Maybe mix in some Oak leaves, pine needles and shred some plywood that's not up to commercial building quality. With the right mix of chemicals people would probably smoke just about anything.
| 7:07 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
"I wonder what market share 'American Spirit' now have"
It still very small, they get little to no mainstream advertising. They do have their niche markets though. I first heard of them while going to art school where they were popular with hippies (I guess they like organic tobacco as much as organic burritos :) )
| 9:12 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I also have heard that Winston's have little to no Nicotine in them.....I wouldn't doubt this either. I know someone who smokes Winston's and is able to quit periodically with small effort
| 9:27 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
able to quit periodically with small effort
As Mark Twain once said: (or something close) "Quitting smoking is the easiest thing I've ever done. I've done it hundreds of times." It's the quitting non-periodically that's a b!tch. Been 6 months without a single smoke...
And let me tell you, stav's ode to the beauty of American Spirit smokes made me all nostalgic. ;)
| 11:25 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Don't get too tempted Madame Mivox ;) I may be enjoying a good smoke, but you are enjoying a longer life.
| 11:26 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
:) As long as you're puffing away anyhow stavs, make sure to smoke a couple for me.
| 11:29 pm on Sep 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
For you, Mivox, I'll smoke a whole pack.
It'll take me about 8 hours and I'll start in the morning.
| 1:07 am on Sep 18, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Pure natural addictive poison with no additive sounds so appealing.
| 1:34 am on Sep 18, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I quit in 97...best thing I ever did. After I discovered my newfound sense of smell again I went out and bought 10 different kinds of cologne...they all smelled so good I couldn't make up my mind so I bought one of each. It's amazing how your sense of smell can spark memories....you lose this when you smoke.
| 2:10 am on Sep 18, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I'm hooked on cigars... but haven't smoked one for 15 years or more. (When you start inhaling those things, you know you've got it bad.) I loved to get in the car to travel by myself, rolling up the windows and just filling the car with thick smoke for hours at a time. For a day or two afterwards the stale cigar 'aroma' would make your eyes water just to stand near the car, nevermind getting in it.
| 2:15 am on Sep 18, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Some kind of anti-teft system?
| 4:47 pm on Sep 18, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Probably a very effective one at that... Personally, the only kind of smoke I ever *liked* (even when I smoked myself) was pipe smoke. Don't know what it is they put in pipe tobacco, but it could double as a sedative incense.
| 5:05 am on Sep 19, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Do they make menthol cigarettes? I think I'm hooked more on menthol than anything else.
| 10:05 am on Sep 19, 2001 (gmt 0)|
> Do they make menthol cigarettes?
Go here [esmokes.com] to see the full range.