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April 2002 Google Update
Page Rank for everyone.

 2:52 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi. I don't know what happened but my page rank just jumped to 7. Is it the update?

Yup. Just checked WWW2 and saw a change in SERPs. Webmasterworld looks like its back up to 7 again too.



 10:19 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)


In 2 and 3 we've climbed over 3 positions in the top 5 for each of our top 3 terms! We updated the pages for each term just hours before the crawl too.

Fingers crossed that the main Goog URL reflects all these changes very shortly (one's showing up already).



 10:26 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Our PR5 is back from PR1 :)

I just hope the results transfer from www3 to www this time (and stay).


Edited (10 minutes later) - OK, now we are back to PR1 :(
I am not going to check again till late today.

(edited by: dstanovic at 10:33 am (utc) on April 26, 2002)


 10:27 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

So then... it's just me.

Several sites missing, still good PR, but just not there in the dbase. They're on different ISPs as well.

Something of a strange one.


 10:43 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

my two missing client sites look like they're back in google now - not checked to see if others have disappeared tho ...


 10:49 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

no false call of update this time
that is a good news;)

 11:11 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

What makes me angry, is that we have several partners who have sites, if they were to link to us, then our PR would be sky-high! BUT THEY DON'T! Because they don't understand why linking is good!!!!


 11:14 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

> not PR0, just missing
Last update I had two sites disappear from Google. They have been on www.Google.com for 6 months and 1 year, and suddenly they disappeared - not PR0 but all grey PR with 'site not ranked by Google'.
They are now both on www2 and www3. Lets hope they make it to www.


 11:28 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

backus...I understand...I have to keep fighting the same battle...particularly annoying when we have some US sites that we used to have mutual links with who have dropped all non-US links and gone invisible on Google as a result

down 1 place, PR unchanged...but I'm making some BIG changes to the site and have very high hopes for next month


 11:32 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yeah, it annoys me when people think the Web is a toy rather than a tool. I got bored of saying to customers, "You can't have bright yellow text on a white background, it looks stupid." or "you can't just build a website and have it sitting there, do something with it!" But they don't understand. It is people like that who ruin the net.

brotherhood of LAN

 11:37 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

How nice, an update without an anti-climax before it happens....and a fast update too!!

wow, good work gg we're timing the next one ;)


 11:46 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing some great results too. Lots more new positions in the top 5. Yippee! :)

Just wondering 2 things though:

1. I've been seeing similar, although not quite as good, results on www2, and www3, and sometimes www since just prior to the LAST update, but the results were constantly switching back to the old serps every few days. Anyone else see anything like that?

2. Is it possible to know your PR on www2, and www3? Many of you are reporting a bump in your PR, but how do you know if your results aren't on www yet?

btw - I am also seeing much better results link wise on this update too. :)


 11:54 am on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Nice update.. SO, is that 20 DAYS??????????????????????


 12:10 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Can someone refresh my memory? How do you look up a site in Google to see if it's been picked up? Is it site: www.domain.com/page name or is it just www.domain.com ?


 12:27 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'd like to repeat Craig_F's question, just in case it got overlooked in the excitement. People seem to be quoting new PRs off the www2 and www3 sites. Is there a way of finding out the PR of a web site while it is on www2 or www3 but before www catches up?

brotherhood of LAN

 1:07 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hey Baldrix, not that i know of, though im patient

Lisa, do site:yoursite.com "and a keyword here or preferrably your domain" without the commas ;)

btw dont think anyone has mentioned that the directory is also updated. (Last update I had a site in ODP that didnt go to Google....however its there now)


 1:14 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

baldrix, there is a way of modifying your registry to get the PR from the other datbases. I'll see if I can find the key again.



 1:16 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)


You are not alone... Trust me. Suddenly, this Friday seems like a Monday...

Any idea why prominently ranked sites on the main DB would up right dissappear this morning? We're not talking Spam, Affiliates, Cloaked or Doorways, etc. Legit, PR6 sites as of yesterday...

Now? Gone from all 3.


 1:18 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Lost the key change in my last PC rebuild. If someone comes across it can they sticky it to me.



 1:28 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

The mysteries of Google eh!

Well my site is back in Google, with improved rankings too.

My site must have been dropped because of a glitch with Google.

Well I'm pleased.



 1:29 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

> webmasterworld.com still shows PR6 from canada

Webmasterworld.com still show PR6 from Italy.

Our PR didn't change but we are gaining some positions.


 1:36 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

hey guys I'm new to this but am already getting caught up in the www2/www3 fever. I've paid to advertise on a site for a month to improve my PR. Have just checked www2/www3 and it's picked up all the links! Before I commit to another month, do the results from www2/3 normally show in the main www?


 1:38 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

That's funny about PR, because this morning I reinstalled the toolbar and went to my Dave Clarke forum. I discovered this smiley button on the toolbar and pressed it. Now, this morning, that forum had a greyed out PR, now it has PR1. Okay, not much, but what does that mean and why did it only take six hours?


 1:47 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Oh surprise surprise, site in my profile still not back.



 2:05 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I am utterly confused.

On one hand I have a site that had great rankings for a number of keywords. It seems that it has lost position for all of the terms in this update, which may or may not mean a PR0 penalty.

Then, there is a new site of ours that was included in the DB and has great rankings for a number of keywords.

These sites use the same strategies and methods. What gives?


 2:59 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

nutsandbolts I like your e-mail address. Wish you can change it soon again to googlelovesmealot@hotmail.com


 3:07 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

It's valid too ;) But empty..... sniff... :(


 3:08 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I got up to PR6 after only 4 months of putting up the site!!! Too bad my rankings in the SERPs haven't changed much this update. :(


 3:29 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

how odd. I optimized my homepage for my number one keyword (in fact my only keyword - my name for my djing) and google has been placing a redirect from an old site on top!

frustrating! the homepage has a paragraph biography type deal with my name sprinkled throughtout, and the redirect only has one line " this site has moved to www.dj*******.com".

still not understanding!! :)


 3:47 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ok, this is not good. On www2 & 3 I am gone, but still in www, but bumped several slots by dang governement web sites...

brotherhood of LAN

 4:01 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

madwax, i can relate to that too :)

About 6 months ago I moved from a freebie site to my own domain. Even though all pages have a 7 second redirect from the old site, and all content has been removed, for one term i still rank higher under the old site, even though the "unique content" isnt there anymore

Its a tutorial part of my site. My suspicion is that link pop from related sites still point to that URL, forcing it to rank so high

If you dont own that site (this may not be a good thing to do), you could always do a link:thatoldURL, and tell everyone who links to the old page to link to the new onee......at least it gets rid of the old useless SERP you talk about, and also helps Google yeah? :)

Back to the update......for a majority of results, I see a lower # of SERP's. Is it viable to say that alot of people have had the boot this time round?


 4:05 pm on Apr 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

It looks like on my site it has gone from indexing 1,820 pages to 1,550 pages :( so I would say that some trimming has been going on. Not sure about this update, in a few terms multiple pages from the same domain are showing although they haven't before (i'm really not bitter that i have been shunted to the second page of results ;) )

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