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GMAIL - Google Announces Their e-mail service
Part 2
Chris_R




msg:1554182
 6:26 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Continued From:

[webmasterworld.com...]

Original Links:

[biz.yahoo.com...]

[mercurynews.com...]

[wired.com...]

[gmail.google.com...]

 

trillianjedi




msg:1554242
 3:41 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

What I really want to know is who sold the gmail domain to google (it was registered before google existed) and how much did they sell if for?

But I don't suppose you'll comment on that googleguy.

TJ

domingo




msg:1554243
 3:47 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Too good, sounds to be an April Fool Joke to me.

Chndru




msg:1554244
 3:53 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hotmail must be wondering about the measly storage they are providing..2MB..hehe..Isn't Yahoo 4mb?

Mardi_Gras




msg:1554245
 3:58 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>Hotmail must be wondering about the measly storage they are providing..2MB.

More likely they are thinking "Maybe we can get people to let us examine their private e-mails and make lots of money sending them ads based on what we find."

skippy




msg:1554246
 4:03 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

E mail coupled with the beta personalized search function not a bad idea really.

Clark




msg:1554247
 4:10 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Mardi Gras,

exactly!

gethan




msg:1554248
 4:23 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

My opinion: The best online april 1st joke ever.

Why:

The joke is on the freemail providers - their services just suck a measly 5mb! One attachment and your box is full. Half of them are probably quaking in their shoes at the prospect that this could be real.
The joke on the media - all the take up, reports, masses and masses of publicity - informing the public that google do more than search.
The joke on us: some of the guys here have spent hours discussing, whether it is or isn't a joke and could they do it. Plus they now have everyones email address.

And finally the joke is going to be on me if it is a real service :)

Genius

Ps. 1GB pah nothing, I've got more memory than that in my camera.

Also - how long would it take the average user to fill a gig? 3 yrs? by then a gig will be like 10mbs now.

Chndru




msg:1554249
 4:27 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Each user would have storage equivalent to 500,000 pages of e-mail, said Google.

[news.bbc.co.uk...]

Is [gmail.com...] working yet?

zuko105




msg:1554250
 4:45 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

So GoogleGuy, I want to beta test! I want to beta test!.

How can I get an account? I signed up under the 'Interested in an account?' link.

How can I get one?

Zuko.

beachlover




msg:1554251
 4:50 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

See that TM sign in the upper right corner of Gmail?

A quick check with the United States Patent and Trademark Office returned absolutely nada.

So my take is:

domain=10 bucks ===> buzz=priceless

SEOMike




msg:1554252
 4:56 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

A quick check with the United States Patent and Trademark Office returned absolutely nada.

Hmmm... something fishy here! Good call beach lover! It sure doesn't seem like all the ducks are in a row if this was a real launch. If it IS a real launch... It's so shoddily done that it's scary. It's not the careful plotting perfection I would expect from Google.

Since Gmail isn't registered with the TM office... maybe I should register it and make Google buy it from me!

skipfactor




msg:1554253
 4:56 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

...there was some speculation on Thursday that the service may be part of an elaborate April Fool's Day prank by the technology company.

Google has long exhibited a quirky sense of humor about itself and its technology. One example of this is Pigeon Rank, a page on Google, which claims its search results are compiled using large numbers of trained pigeons. Then there is the recent job listing for the Google Copernicus Center, which claims the company is hiring staff for a new lunar hosting and research center, to be opened in 2007.

Skeptics also note that the press release announcing the service on Business Wire is dated March 31 at 7:05 p.m., which is also just past midnight GMT.

[nbc13.com...]

I still think it's real.

Chndru




msg:1554254
 5:00 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>quick check with the United States Patent and Trademark Office

Does it include pending applications?

Sanenet




msg:1554255
 5:02 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hmm... If it is April Fools, then the Spanish reporters who spoke to Wayne Rosing aren't going to be too happy. (April Fools is an English / US thing).

Something I saw on all the Spanish reports which I haven't seen on the Enlish ones:
Rosing dijo que la empresa no tenía planes activos de añadir Gmail a su página principal Google.com, como ha hecho con programas de pruebas anteriores como News y Froogle...

Rough translation: Rosing said that the company had no active plans to add Gmail to it's front page as it has before with previous beta programs like News & Froogle...

loanuniverse




msg:1554256
 5:05 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I want to beta test too!

/furiously starts to zip his website files

Chndru




msg:1554257
 5:17 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

"We want to organize and present all the world's information," Rosing said, who added that the service will be formally launched in "weeks to months".

Rosing said the company has no active plans to add Gmail to the main Google.com page, as it has done with previous test programs like News and Froogle, its price-comparison shopping tool.


Reuters [reuters.com]

GoogleGuy




msg:1554258
 5:33 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have to say, I am really enjoying all the news coverage of Gmail on April Fool's Day. :)

sweet_ali




msg:1554259
 5:38 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

If it's real, then they are getting a lot of Free PR (public relations) mileage out of releasing it on April Fool's day.

Clark




msg:1554260
 5:41 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have to say, I am really enjoying all the news coverage of Gmail on April Fool's Day. :)

I told the beta team at gmail that you personally recommended me for their beta....and they let me in!

mifi601




msg:1554261
 5:47 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

clark you almost got me there ..

Clark




msg:1554262
 6:07 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

;)

Sanenet




msg:1554263
 6:08 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

[webmasterworld.com...]
Google tries to patent email ad serving.

Kirby




msg:1554264
 6:14 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

"We want to organize and present all the world's information,"

That was meant for Gates. I love a company with attitude.

beachlover




msg:1554265
 6:16 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

@Chndru

Trademark Electronic Search System (Tess) contains more than 3 million pending, registered and dead federal trademarks.

Craven de Kere




msg:1554266
 6:19 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I plan to block their email domain from any mailserver I run. I'll also refuse to send email to clients using them.

I do NOT want to deliver targeted ads for my competitors with the communications to my clients.

I will also block the use of gmail domains on any of the free registration sites I own (forums etc).

The possibility for abuse is incredible. It would be child's play to, say, target an ad at webmasterworld members reading their email updates.

"Hi there, reading your email updates are you? Brett is in bed with Google go over here to this forum..."

You acn also disparage people by targeting a negative text to their name.

e.g. Fred Ggguuutt has a rare name. If someone gets mad at him they can target his name in ads.

So any time Fred sends mail to a gmail user, he might also be delivering the negative ad his enemy has targeted to his name.

Google will be vigilant for this but unless they pre-approve each and every ad and ad change there will be the potential for many variations of the abuse I detailed.

I won't be sending any email to gmail, either personal, business, or from my websites.

zuko105




msg:1554267
 6:34 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Craven de Kere

I think that is an extremely poor business decision.

10 million users of Google can't be wrong.

There exists those same abuse potential in yahoo and msn email. You can be assured that yahoo and msn will try to do the same thing once the gmail business model is realized.

Are you going to block all *@hotmail, *@yahoo, *@aol, *@msn email domains as well?

That's like 50% of people that use email.

nanocet




msg:1554268
 6:34 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I won't be sending any email to gmail, either personal, business, or from my websites.

I tend to have a feeling they won't really care.

Kirby




msg:1554269
 6:39 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I would bet google will have an ad-free version for a monthly fee.

Besides, if you want to come across as professional, do you use hotmail, yahoo, gmail, etc as your email for business purposes?

Tom_Dalton




msg:1554270
 6:41 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

So, what do you bet they're doing this to test the interest and response? They can back down and say it was just a joke, if they don't get the response they'd like. If they get 200,000 people sending their email addresses today, then they'll roll this thing and start achieving the "user lock-in" that analysts keep reminding them they lack.

My opinion is that this is neither a joke nor a serious announcement -- it is just a trial balloon. It could go either way.

That said, I sent them my email address, and I hope they run with this thing.

Mardi_Gras




msg:1554271
 6:41 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>10 million users of Google can't be wrong.

Huh? When did 10 million people ever endorse this e-mail plan? How does using Google for search qualify as an endorsement of Google mail?

>There exists those same abuse potential in yahoo and msn email.

No there doesn't - not even close.

Mardi_Gras




msg:1554272
 6:47 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>My opinion is that this is neither a joke nor a serious announcement -- it is just a trial balloon. It could go either way.

Interesting thought - although it would be a little embarrasing to back off now.

>That said, I sent them my email address, and I hope they run with this thing.

I'm curious - why? That question is not really aimed directly at you, Tom_Dalton, but at the many posters who seem to be endorsing the service. What is it about Google mail that makes everyone seem so anxious to give up their privacy rights to get free e-mail? It just seems to me that Google is asking for huge privacy concessions from users in return for a gigabyte of storage. I've got a few extra gigs of space right here on my hard drive - I suspect most users do. So what's the appeal?

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