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GMAIL : Google Planning to Roll Out E-Mail Service
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Mohamed_E




msg:1555307
 1:06 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Have I missed this NY Times story somewhere else on the site?

Google Planning to Roll Out E-Mail Service [nytimes.com]

[biz.yahoo.com...]

[mercurynews.com...]

[wired.com...]

[gmail.google.com...]

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 3:55 am (utc) on April 1, 2004]
[edit reason] added links [/edit]

 

eraldemukian




msg:1555367
 3:02 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

does anybody know the answer to the only big question that I have: 'when'

the press release talks about 'a couple of test users'.

everybody wants firstname@gmail.com

so do I.

sdani




msg:1555368
 3:03 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

<<Have you used Hotmail?>>>

Yes I did at one point, when it was much better. I have not used it for few years and I don't know any of my friends who are still using hotmail as their primary email account.

jonknee




msg:1555369
 3:04 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

The articles coming out now are saying 1,000 people got an invite. It has been tested inside Google for up to a year.

Also, they are saying look for it within a few weeks / months. That is, unless you know one of the chosen.

blaze




msg:1555370
 3:06 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I wonder when instant messaging will be released (with contextual adverts ;)

[edited by: blaze at 3:16 am (utc) on April 1, 2004]

bcolflesh




msg:1555371
 3:09 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hmm - still seems like an April Foolie to me - typical grup.

Brett_Tabke




msg:1555372
 3:11 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>nodoubt

First welcome to the forums nodoubt - appreciate the input. Nice article:

[mercurynews.com...]

Mardi_Gras




msg:1555373
 3:16 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Google will make money off the product with small text ads placed in each e-mail message. The ads will be contextual, meaning they will be related to the content of the e-mail.

So Google will be examing the content of all stored e-mails to determine what ads to serve to the account holder? That sure rings some privacy alarm bells for me. I know any ISP that does spam filtering is analyzing e-mail content, but this seems to be going a step beyond.

AmericanBulldog




msg:1555374
 3:19 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Joke.

This type of wording is not typical of a serious press release.

Larry Page, Google co-founder and president, Products. "She kvetched about spending all her time filing messages or trying to find them," Page said. "And when she's not doing that, she has to delete email like crazy to stay under the obligatory four megabyte limit. So she asked, 'Can't you people fix this?'"

ChrisKud5




msg:1555375
 3:19 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Oh I am DYING to have a "@gmail.com" email address.

No, No I am not.

What is a "Search Based E-mail client" anyways? Do you have to search for your email? Sounds stupid.

mack




msg:1555376
 3:21 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Not sure where I read this...
I remember a while ago it was clamed that Google had a large section of data from a messenger network that was used for research on search tech etc.

Perhaps this is where that was leading.

Mack.

rfgdxm1




msg:1555377
 3:21 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>That sure rings some privacy alarm bells for me.

This would obviously be done by algo without a human looking at the e-mails. And if you want e-mail privacy, ALL non-encrypted e-mail is not secure. If you want e-mail privacy, use PGP.

mack




msg:1555378
 3:22 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

"What is a "Search Based E-mail client" anyways?"

Search for terms, phrases within your emails.

Search for similar emails.

find the PR of your emails. Ok I took that to far. :)

Mack

Mr_Roberto




msg:1555379
 3:25 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

If this turns out to be true, there are almost gator-like implications here.

Imagine you send an email to a client as a thank you for his registration at your Widgetworld site. Gmail then parses the email, figures out its about widgets, and presents the user with a bunch of ads for your competitors!

skipfactor




msg:1555380
 3:25 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>some privacy alarm bells

Agreeing to the terms of free mail will take care of that.

>>still seems like an April Foolie

Surely they wouldn't April Fool's when ads are mentioned.

Mardi_Gras




msg:1555381
 3:26 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>This would obviously be done by algo without a human looking at the e-mails.

That's not the point. Imagine what they could learn about each user.

>And if you want e-mail privacy, ALL non-encrypted e-mail is not secure. If you want e-mail privacy, use PGP.

You're talking about transmission of e-mail. I'm talking about storage of e-mail - on Google's servers.

atadams




msg:1555382
 3:26 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

So can I get PR by linking from emails? ... kidding

I'm beginning to think this is real. The NYTimes article has a lot more info than the press release including this tidbit: "One internal Google study put the operational cost of maintaining electronic mail storage at less than $2 per gigabyte." How would they have gotten that info without a internal source?

If this was an April Fool's joke, it isn't anymore.

jonknee




msg:1555383
 3:29 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

How would they have gotten that info without a internal source?

A CompUSA sales paper? Heh. Just kidding, but it's not hard to come up with a number.

upside




msg:1555384
 3:30 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

In the last few hours the whois info for "gmail.com" changed to Google, complete with Google nameservers!

atadams




msg:1555385
 3:34 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

but it's not hard to come up with a number

It's not the number, it's that they are quoting an internal document.

Again, if this was a joke, it's not now [news.google.com]!

blaze




msg:1555386
 3:35 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yeah, you could even seen a scenario in which Google might let certain spam through if it triggers high value AdSense adverts..

atadams




msg:1555387
 3:38 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't think GoogleGuy went to dinner, I think he went to start programming a search-based webmail service! ;)

mack




msg:1555388
 3:40 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

"I don't think GoogleGuy went to dinner, I think he went to start programming a search-based webmail service!"

LOL "dam they think it's real, we need to do this now"

Mack.

PatrickDeese




msg:1555389
 3:50 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I wouldn't mind having been the previous owner of gmail.com.

i also wouldn't mind being the owner of fmail, hmail, rmail, tmail, bmail, vmail, ymail etc. :P

--

original i mistyped "would" instead of "wouldn't"

[edited by: PatrickDeese at 4:33 am (utc) on April 1, 2004]

rsequin




msg:1555390
 3:55 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

About the previous owner of the domain name...

Do you think they contacted him and said "Hi, we're Google and we are launching this new email service and would like to call it gmail.com but you own the name. How much would you sell it to us for?"

Nah. The poor *** is probably going to have a heart attack as soon as he hears about the new use for his previously owned domain name.

[edited by: eelixduppy at 9:56 pm (utc) on Feb. 18, 2009]

Chico_Loco




msg:1555391
 4:00 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

They also own googlemail.com

stuntdubl




msg:1555392
 4:17 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Wow. It is amazing how fast information (or possibly disinformation) propogates now. I can't get anything to resolve. Wonder how many millions of people are attempting to access this. If I were them I'd put phenterm*ne ads on that site;)

PatrickDeese




msg:1555393
 4:22 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

What i think is funny is that they are probably going to have to prop up Gmail in the SERPs for a while, like they do Adsense - got some competition out there:

[google.com...]

Scarecrow




msg:1555394
 4:25 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

You're talking about transmission of e-mail. I'm talking about storage of e-mail - on Google's servers.

Don't worry. All your old emails will expire automatically the same time that their cookie expires - on Jan 17, 2038.

Until then you will be able to see lots of AdWords for lawyers, and sooner or later you'll probably need one to keep Google from responding to a subpoena.

Edwin




msg:1555395
 4:26 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I feel sorry for Milo Cripps
[tess2.uspto.gov...]

stuntdubl




msg:1555396
 4:27 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I think Patrick is just using this as a ploy to get lots of links to his new site www.gmail.com. :)

Allergic




msg:1555397
 4:44 am on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Gmail.com created on 1995-Aug-13 (Record last updated on..: 2004-Mar-31 16:50:22) Not sure it was originally own by Google?

Googlemail.com created on 2001-Jul-18

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