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Gmail Beta Testers
Are there any out there?
web_young




msg:1554672
 7:04 pm on Apr 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Is anyone beta testing Gmail yet? If so do you have any insight you can give the rest of us on how it is? I can't wait to give it a try.

 

sovidiu




msg:1554702
 8:47 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

GMail is also available inside Google translation accounts.

dead_duckie




msg:1554703
 11:25 am on Apr 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

"GMail is also available inside Google translation accounts."

Wow, yes! Thanks for the hint, I haven't logged into that for quite some time - would have missed that.

Got my GMail account now and I love it!
Was sceptical before but hey, it's cool!

Well to be true it is not that Google reinvented EMail but the layout is nice. I still have to get used to the idea of abandoning folders and using flags instead.

Has anyone seen any ads other than EMail service related ones so far?

troels nybo nielsen




msg:1554704
 12:02 pm on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

I just logged into my Blogger account. I have not seen this before:

As an active Blogger user, we would like to invite you to be one of the first to try out Google's new email service, Gmail.

Does this mean that the testing has made a new step?

BReflection




msg:1554705
 4:00 pm on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yeah but it only works if your active. I tried my old (probably 6 months and never used) blogger account and no-go.

steverose




msg:1554706
 3:39 am on Apr 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am active and I joined when I found the notice prominently displayed.

In fact I was going to ask for some hints. It would seem since they are late in the field they would have easy import features for address lists and filter lists. Does anyone know if these features are there and I am just not seeing them? Cheers, S

ThatAdamGuy




msg:1554707
 3:50 am on Apr 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

No import/export currently.

They've been noting (in responses to help queries) that they're building an import-contact feature. And I'd sure hope that by the time the beta is over, we can at least EDIT our filters! :)

ThatAdamGuy




msg:1554708
 12:21 am on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi there,

A few folks here and via my blog have contacted me, asking me how I got a Gmail account. I thought this'd be a good opportunity to offer what I know and hopefully enable more WW'ers to get their own accounts. I think being able to actually TRY Gmail really can contribute to the thoughtfulness of conversations here, since it's quite hard to understand some of the nuances of Gmail just by reading commentary.

So, without further ado, here are some suggestions for getting Gmail accounts:

1) Log into your blogger.com [blogger.com] account.
This won't work with newly (last week or two) established accounts, nor accounts established ages ago, but... if you have been an 'active' (defined by Google) Blogger via blogger.com, you may find a Gmail invitation displayed on the screen when you log in to your account and/or after you post an entry. I've read of invites going out as recently as this morning in this context.

2) Log into your Google Translator account [services.google.com].
If you've been an active contributor to Google translations ("Google in your language"), you may find an invite in your account.

3) Log into your Google Answers account [answers.google.com].
If you have been an active researcher, helping find answers for folks for a fee, this is another possibility for getting an account.

4) Publicly demonstrate a keen interest in and awareness of Gmail
I was invited to Gmail by a Google acquaintance who saw my Gmail-related postings on orkut.com. I've heard of others being spontaneously offered accounts by Googlers impressed with their blog commentary.

* * *

Are you aware of other ways to get a Gmail account? Feel free to share here :)

Hope this list is helpful!

eaden




msg:1554709
 5:16 am on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Someone had a few invites, and had a competition for them. I had to write a haiku about go carts and take photos of myself with silverware, but hey I got an account.

There were also other blogs giving them away. So searching for gmail invite on daypop on a regular basis might get you somewhere ( or not ). No sign of them on ebay yet.

As for gmail itself, it rocks. Nice to see javascript put to good use.

internetguy




msg:1554710
 3:16 am on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

I had a blogger account since Feb. 04 and am an active blogger. I responded to the invitation at blogger.com and got an account.

Gmail rocks!

anallawalla




msg:1554711
 3:17 am on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Are you aware of other ways to get a Gmail account? Feel free to share here

A Gmail user can invite x others via the interface.

eaden




msg:1554712
 6:21 am on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Are you aware of other ways to get a Gmail account? Feel free to share here

A Gmail user can invite x others via the interface.

Well that's true if x can be 0

troels nybo nielsen




msg:1554713
 8:36 am on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

In my case x > 0. It is pure guesswork what makes the difference.

HitProf




msg:1554714
 8:29 am on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hm I would be interested in an acount :)

But not one that's for sale! Inbelievable that anyone would *buy* an account?

troels nybo nielsen




msg:1554715
 8:38 am on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hitprof, sticky me your name and email and I will invite you.

sovidiu




msg:1554716
 9:43 am on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

It's good to see that everyone got a GMail account. It would be better to see it being put to good use, but that is another problem/bug.

jusdrum




msg:1554717
 4:42 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've been very pleased with the Gmail service. I think it is functionally superior to any other web-based service and rivals the quality of desktop email apps. I'm particularly impressed with the keyboard shortcuts.

I've been thinking about putting my second invite on eBay. But that seems wrong. :-}

bcolflesh




msg:1554718
 4:52 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

For those of you with accounts - are they "beta" in the sense that they will expire when the service goes public?

jusdrum




msg:1554719
 4:59 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Steve, if you can invite people, there will be a red "invite a friend" link under the search box at the top of the page. It's really obvious. You'll see the links in this order:

Show search options ¦ Create a filter ¦ Invite a friend to Gmail!

If you don't see the invite link next to "create a filter", you can't invite anyone.

steverose




msg:1554720
 5:02 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ahh! Merci. I am using gmail as a protected account more or less so I don't go there at all times of the day and I have not detected a You've Got Mail gizmo on the Toolbar ... yet! Will run on by now and edit this note yea, if I have it. Thanks again, S

YEA!

caine




msg:1554721
 11:04 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

GG,

Yah, those are not ads; they're web pages that are suggested because they're related to the content of the email.

now that could win a prize - i see a politician in the making! he he

got to be up for quote of the year!

sovidiu




msg:1554722
 8:27 am on May 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ok now. Let's just wait until GMail goes public. Asking for a free account from this service redirects the topic of this discussion towards "off-topic requests".

steverose




msg:1554723
 3:03 pm on May 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Back to the topic. I think Gmail is a perfect supplement to Yahoo mail which I use and maybe Hotmail as well. It is a different animal. I do not plan to use it as a basic account, but for the conversations I want to separate out from all the daily flow. I think for me the idea is my present account AND Gmail for special stuff. Best, S

sovidiu




msg:1554724
 8:09 am on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

You are right. GMail, from what I've heard, is way better than Yahoo (even Yahoo! MailPlus) and Hotmail. From my experience with these two last e-mail providers, I can say that Hotmail is not worthed at all, since it really works slowly and you get a free e-mail quota. On the other hand, Yahoo works super-fast, and I doubt that GMail can beat the speed of HP servers, currently powering Yahoo.

I would like to know if GMail allows attachments and their maximum size (e.g., 100Mb) and if it has a software implemented in order to scan messages for malicious e-mail worms.

So, basically, if GMail allows large-size attachments and if it operates faster than Yahoo (which I seriously doubt), Google is on the right track towards the e-mail users' Internet segment. However, some parts of GMail might be implemented from Google's help service software (a while ago they bought a software company focused on providing e-mail assistance software, currently used by their Google Accounts employees).

ThatAdamGuy




msg:1554725
 8:20 am on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

To address two of your questions:

1) Gmail has a limit of 10 megs per incoming or outgoing e-mail, attachment(s) included.

2) I've used Hotmail, Yahoo! Mail and Gmail. While Gmail is having a few hiccups at the moment, it seems OVERALL much faster than either of the other major Web services. This is largely because of rather brilliant usage of javascript, invisible frames, and pre-loading of stuff... so that, for instance, after you archive a thread or send a mail to the spam bucket, there's no waiting for the screen to refresh; it's instantaneous, even on dialup.

In fairness, Yahoo! Mail does offer a number of advantages over Gmail at this time:
- Support for creation of HTML e-mail
- Integration with a calendar, sync'able addressbook, etc.
- As of yet better spam filtering

I think Gmail will catch up, but as you can see, it's not yet perfect :)

sovidiu




msg:1554726
 9:00 am on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes, I've read some of your messages about GMail on Orkut, and was aware that there are javascripts integrated in Google's e-mail service. The disadvantages, as far as I can see them, are:

- the use of javascripts to increase accessibility, but lose the surfers using Opera browser and IExplore 5 (I've tried to access GMail using Mozilla 1.7b and it worked; can't say the same about W3C's Amaya 8.5);

- the small size of the attachment allowed (10Mb), which seems disproportionate in correlation with the 1024Mb quota a GMail account has;

- the lack of antivirus scanner to prevent e-mail worms;

- the lack of anti-spamming software.

This Java integration is a fragile compromise, since Opera has problems displaying it. I am still curious if GMail can be accessed via lynx or konqueror or any X-Window related browser.

And I suppose GMail is not a POP3 client, view that it has a large quota.

So the overall impression is that GMail is extremly restrictive, not only because you can get such type of e-mail account via an on-line invitation, but also because there are a few browsers it accepts. What will happen to *nix users? I personally belive that GMail is only related (at this moment) to Microsoft users that have updated their IExplore browsers (should they use Win2k or older).

And I wonder if the use of Java inside GMail was the result of Microsoft-Sun agreement a few weeks ago.

Chndru




msg:1554727
 1:31 pm on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

>there's no waiting for the screen to refresh; it's instantaneous, even on dialup.

Aye. It's pure javascript wizardry. And the placement of several links/buttons are innovative and very functional.

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