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Gmail spam detection is utter garbage
kila_m




msg:1554728
 7:56 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've been using Gmail for a while now - I switched from hotmail because of their 2MB limit they use to have.

I normally get around 2000 spam messages a day as I have many domains and I forward everything to Gmail.

The problem is in Gmail you cant do:

keep everything in:

webmaster@mydomain.com

postmaster@mydomain.com

link@mydomain.com

and then reject everything like:

*@mydomain.com

to the trash.

Instead I am getting spammers guessing

dictionaryword@mydomain.com

and the spam comes through.

Also Gmail spam detection is bad, that a lot of my normal mail is getting confused as spam so I have to sift through 2000+ spam everyday.

I decided to switch back to forward back to hotmail and instantly I noticed they do a much better job.

So far after 3 days, the 2,000+ spam is down to 50 per day with 0 spam false detection.

Also because you can have "SAFE" lists the spam detection also reduces false positives unlike Googles Gmail.

Theres too much praise on Gmail, its nothing but a glorified 1GB hard disk space... I wont use it again until they offer better spam control.

 

Chndru




msg:1554729
 8:01 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

huh? are you for real?

Macro




msg:1554730
 8:14 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

I must admit - I'm not particularly excited about gmail's SPAM control. It was OK initially but then nobody had my addy. I later redirected *@mydomain.com to gmail and have been filtering SPAM ever since. Hundreds per day, and they are increasing.

bcolflesh




msg:1554731
 8:18 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

I did the same thing Macro - so I understand the original post, even if it wsn't very clearly articulated - more filtering options in Gmail would be appreciated.

Tropical Island




msg:1554732
 8:35 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

We receive around 800 SPAM each day to one of our accounts and I find that Gmail does a pretty good job.

Yes, I do quickly glance through the SPAM folder during the course of the day to check for valid mail that may have gotten in there in error however for the last month or so there have been very few and those were mostly news letters that others had probably marked as SPAM.

The big advantage of Gmail is the notifier and the POP mail options. Also the interface is much better than Hotmail. We are already at 50MB since we started. It also acts as a back-up to our OE mail storage.

While it is not perfect it is much easier to use than Hotmail and much faster. I won't go back.

Teknorat




msg:1554733
 11:39 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

To be honest I don't get the spam argument. I haven't had one slip through for months. Admitantly I only get about 4 a day but it's not like the email isn't plastered across the web. I've been pleased with it so far but I do think the filters need a little more work.

universetoday




msg:1554734
 3:04 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah, I've got to disagree with the original poster. I get about 800 SPAMs a day, including those dictionary attacks. Gmail catches them all except a handful (like 5-10 a day) that I manually mark as SPAM.

kila_m




msg:1554735
 1:49 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

You get 800 spam a day and you dont think there's a problem?

On hotmail you dont get near as much spam because it much more accurate and deletes it at source.

On Gmail you gave to spend 30 mins per day going through the spam as you get far too many false positives.

Where are the "Safe lists"?
The label system used to work but now the filters dont even work on the labels anymore.

Where is the catch all filter rule?

Gmail fans boys, keep telling yourself its better than hotmail. Im glad I switched back as I only spend 3 mins looking at my mail compared to the 30+.

Oh and the people who only get 5-10 spam per day wont see a problem as your not heavy users.

b0rdslide




msg:1554736
 4:14 pm on Feb 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

I get maybe 80-150 spam emails per day.

After training their spam system I find I get maybe 1 or 2 false positives out of 1000 spam emails, considering that the false positives are just mailing list type emails that i don't read anyway it doesn't bother me.

I get maybe 2-4 spam emails each day that are put into my inbox, but after marking them as spam i very rarely see the same type of spam there again.

Considering I have all my mail pass through rbl checking on my own mailserver before being forwarded to gmail I get much less spam than if I was passing everthing though.

Overall I couldn't be happier with the gmail service. All I really want is a way of deleting labels and all of their content, and a way of emptying the spam/trash folders without having to select a page of email at a time.

Kev

Robino




msg:1554737
 4:22 pm on Feb 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



I get ZERO!

I used to get a few each day but that stopped about a month ago.

Is anyone seeing Gmail addresses appear on your mailing lists?

Bones




msg:1554738
 1:29 am on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

For me, Googles spam detection has been 100%. Not a single email has been put in my inbox that I haven't been expecting. All the others have been put in the spam folder.

If your using it for personal use and are getting 800+ (!) spam emails a day, you should seriously reconsider how your using your email address!

If your using it for business... then why would you use ANY free provider (even hotmail)? You really have no reason to complain.

It's a free service, and from what I've experienced, it's very good for it's intended use.

mike3k




msg:1554739
 1:41 am on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I get about 10-20 spams a day at Gmail and their spam filter catches all of them. I usually read gmail via POP3 and none of the spams come through - the only way I see them is when I view it on the web.

Macro




msg:1554740
 9:50 am on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

After my earlier post I must admit that it seems better. They obviously saw my post and reacted :)

I had redirected several email addresses to gmail and the SPAM is in the range of a few tens per hour. Gmail is now picking up all but about 10 a day. It's taken a few months though. And, the annoying thing is that a lot of the SPAM that was coming through could have been caught with OE tools.

Tropical Island




msg:1554741
 1:58 pm on Feb 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

The spammers must have found a new way around the Gmail filters in the last 24 hours.

Much more SPAM is finding it's way into our inbox.

When I say much more, out of about 100 SPAM that were there this morning when I checked about 8 were in the inbox.

That's about triple the normal amount. I also noticed that it was the "drug" and the "ink" ones that are getting through.

Robino




msg:1554742
 5:12 pm on Feb 26, 2005 (gmt 0)


You need to be more careful about where and how you display your email address.


Tropical Island




msg:1554743
 5:51 pm on Feb 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Robino - like on our website which is geared for non-savvy web users with e-mail addresses from AOL, Yahoo & Hotmail.

All of our business comes in by e-mail.

There is really nothing practical that we can do to prevent the SPAM

Robino




msg:1554744
 8:58 pm on Feb 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

There is really nothing practical that we can do to prevent the SPAM

Sure there is.


<script language=javascript>

<!--
var username = "emailaddress";
var hostname = "yourdomain.com";
var linktext = username + "@" + hostname;
document.write("<a href=" + "mail" + "to:" + username +
"@" + hostname + ">" + linktext + "</a>")
//-->

</script>

It helps.

ogletree




msg:1554745
 9:02 pm on Feb 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

First off you are a beta tester for gmail. It is not released to the public. You should not be suprised that mature released programs work better.

cooldoug




msg:1554746
 11:40 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes, Ive seen spam from google members, but gmail only allows 500 emails to be sent out a day(from smtp). So spammers that use gmail must not make much;). Its also good to put your email in image form. Spambots cant read images:).

Reflection




msg:1554747
 6:33 pm on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I recently had gmail pick up on a paypal phishing email. It went directly to my spam box and when I opened it a warning from gmail was displayed: "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal information"

Thought that was pretty cool.

BriGuy20




msg:1554748
 12:50 pm on Apr 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've had GMail for a while, and it does a pretty good job of filtering junk. No complaints here.

It's night and day compared to my hotmail account though... It seems over half the junk mail doesn't end up in the junk folder over there.

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