| 9:12 pm on Aug 25, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I would really be interested in thoughts on this as well. IMO, Mambo looks the most Adsense friendly and SEO optimized.
| 9:21 pm on Aug 25, 2005 (gmt 0)|
If you set it up right you can keep your content seperate from the rest of your site/pages and not use CMS software. Some sites I have decided to attempt with static pages crafted by hand in the ways of my ancestors and a few other sites use CMS software I designed and built myself back in the late '90s.
| 9:26 pm on Aug 25, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I have sites that use Mambo, Wordpress and Notepad with Server Side Includes as CMS system. My experience is that those written with Notepad/SSI give the best performance both with AdSense and for the general visitor experience for a number of reasons:
- Free choice of path- and filenames
- Full control of page title
- Full control of <h1><h2><h3> structure
- Full control of meta description and meta keywords
- Full control of page structure, AdSense locations etc
- Full control of interlinking structure
Any of the first five items mentioned above can influence ad targetting. Although interlinking structure doesn't influence AdSense directly, it gives the possibility to transfer visitors to the best performing pages, thereby having an indirect influence on AdSense earnings.
| 1:49 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Thanks lammert, but if I have 1 site with over 400 articles right now. What would I do right a new article in an html file and then just include it on a page.
Seems easier to just write out the article in the blog software and publish.
Mod rewrite makes the URL nice and friendly to the SE's. Guess Im just looking to see what else people are doing.
| 2:37 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|I doubt people have 100 or 1000 pages on their site and created each one by hand. |
This thread seems way off topic for the AdSense forum, but what the hey:
Microsoft FrontPage 2003 works for me, and I've got nearly 5,000 pages of "evergreen" editorial content.
| 2:50 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
What I meant to ask was do people use a particular program to make their pages/articles and then incorporate AdSense in particular spots of their sites so every page is the same?
| 3:28 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
If you are asking about blog software then the answer is "yes": It is common practice for users of CMS software to employ very similar templates and to place AdSense in substantially the same location.
At least that's what I've observed again and again.
| 3:32 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I use FrontPage shared borders, with the AdSense leaderboards at the bottom of the top border. Includes would work, too.
| 3:54 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I implemented my own CMS. It's light and simple. The way I like it. Mambo is too big and complicated for me, but it certainly allows you to easily incorporate ads in your pages.
If you are into coding and db desing, look for Smarty. I've been told it's a good template engine.
| 4:12 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I'm going to put my $0.02 and suggest Drupal. Very SEO friendly and the code is clean and fast.
There is an adsense module, and a banner/textlink tracking module. Some php experience is recommended as the docs are a little on the light side.
Less feature packed and less bells and whistles than Mambo which is what I like. Also, keep in mind that the entire core team of Mambo just left the project so I would be hesitant to get into a major Mambo project until that sorts itself out (if ever?).
I've had good experience with Wordpress as well.
| 4:34 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
So it's not so much what package if you have your template right and adsense in the right spot?
Can I post the url of my test site and have you guys take a look at the AdSense placement?
| 4:48 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|This thread seems way off topic for the AdSense forum |
Agree, but for my two cents, I use Macromedia's Homesite and do all the coding by hand. We have over 2,000 pages. All pages are in a very tight, indential format including the placement of AdSense code. This allows for quick site wide "Find and Replace" when major updating is necessary.
|Can I post the url of my test site and have you guys take a look at the AdSense placement? |
No URL's, but you can put it in your profile.
[edited by: Never_again at 4:50 am (utc) on Aug. 26, 2005]
| 4:49 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I recommend any CMS which:
1- creates static pages,
2- lets you specify variables such as content summary, title, author, keywords...so that you can insert into your templates,
3- lets you create unlimited number of templates for different categories.
4- has a built-in search function.
I personally don't like database driven CMSs. A good, CGI based static page generator would be my choice. So convenient to back up and restore.
I have been building pages with Dreamweaver, notepad and CMSs and each has advantages and disadvantages depending on what the site is being built to accomplish. For regular article posting, CMS is the way to go.
| 4:59 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Number 1 choice: My own developed CMS specially for 'the' purpose, - 5 sites on that and very good results. Now when i have to launch a new site, it is a 10 to 30 minute job to book a domain, put hosting, upload my cms and --there it is online. ( Now, as we are a web development company, selling this cms also, with ongoing support and free updates, so i can say that learning always pays in more than one way - most of what i have put in is what i have learnt in this forum)
Number 2 choice: Xoops. Very extensive and very search engine friendly. My largest site is on Xoops. I have loved this system sincle almost 5 years.
Tried and dropped: Mambo , Drupal, PHP Nuke
| 5:06 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I also use Macromedia's Homesite, along with php Server Side Includes that allow me to instantly modify ads and other material by category in any of four page positions (widget banner ads in the widget section, bunko banner ads in the bunko section, submenus where needed, etc.) My biggest site has over 14,000 pages but with SSI and Homesite's very powerful global search/replace, I've had very little trouble keeping it current and consistent. Yes, this involves hand-coding simple HTML but this quickly becomes second nature and you're not captive to someone else's proprietary system.
| 5:20 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
14000 pages? Wow jhodd. Wonder what kind of site that is and where your content comes from.
Im looking at wordpress and it seems like I have total control of the template and where I can put the AdSense code on the page.
Maybe I'll give Xoops a try too.
| 5:59 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I would tend to agree with Alioc:
I wrote my own CMS - nothing huge or whizzy and pretty simple but what it does works.
All the page data (content / metadata) is stored in database tables. When any of the information is changed through my admin page then the webpage is rewritten as a static html.
I make heavy use of CSS and use CSS-P also.
Why? I have many sites that use shared hosting, dynamic pages use more processing power, dbs use processing power and if set up correctly will also be on a different sever.
With shared hosting you never really know what you're going to get - sure they tell you you'll get #*$!x megs bandwith and xxxx megs webspace, cgi etc.
But, your website might be sharing the server / ram / processor / bandwidth with xx thousand other sites. I want my pages to load quickly and be always available so I try and cut down the bottlenecks and possible areas of latency.
Generally its stood me in pretty good stead, as soon as I add content the page is available with its new info.
I have very SE and adsense bot friendly pages (and URLs).
It also saves me from having to worry that I might get caught out by some new feature / bug in another CMS and also the markup squirted into the browser is exactly how I want - if I were using another CMS I would worry a little about dupe content filters being triggered by stuff in the markup that I didn't put there (could be unfounded and paranoid but I like to have control).
Granted - it wouldn't work for everone as many people want much more dynamic features.
| 7:40 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Nucleus for me...
| 8:10 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I created my own dynamic CMS for my main site, based on Java/JSP. This is my 3rd or 4th time round on the CMS technology for this site over 8 years.
Other sites have been done with nothing more than a text editor and have been going strong for up to 10 years...
| 11:48 am on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Drupal, Fastest of All, Most Search Engine Friendly with custom path namings.
The only point is it needs quite a bit of learning.
| 1:55 pm on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
SE-friendly with RealURL extension.
Good Performance because of own caching method, an existing extension for almost any purpose and a great community.
| 2:21 pm on Aug 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Typo3 for me too, although i do have a couple of old community type sites running postnuke still.
| 3:41 pm on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I opted for a mix of wordpress & Notepad with SSI.
My sites are content based showcasing info with adsense and affiliate links. It works for me. If I were selling products I would look for something secure with more features but it does the job and lets me tweak the code as required.