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Consortium launch Creative Archive Initiative
trillianjedi




msg:340872
 11:28 am on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

The BBC, Channel 4, the British Film Institute (BFI) and The Open University (OU) launched the scheme on Wednesday.

It will allow people to download and use footage and audio for non-commercial purposes, with each user agreeing to abide by the licence conditions before gaining access to any of the available material.

[news.bbc.co.uk...]

 

Jack_Hughes




msg:340873
 12:07 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

bravo BBC, BFI, Channel 4. Now, how about everybody else?

ronin




msg:340874
 1:13 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Round of applause. That's a commendable move on the part of all four organisations. Another pat on the back for the Creative Commons initiative as well which was the inspiration for the Creative Archive Initiative.

Lord Majestic




msg:340875
 1:25 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I wonder if they would require people to download from their site only or allow users to share what they downloaded legally on the Internet -- the latter option will allow to cut costs greatly.

amznVibe




msg:340876
 2:15 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Note that all the files will be restricted by IP.
Meaning that outside the UK, we won't be able to download anything (without a UK based proxy)

Will the Creative Archive use DRM? [creativearchive.bbc.co.uk]

The Creative Archive will not be using DRM around the content. The BBC's pilot site will be using a technology called GEOIP filtering to ensure that content sourced directly from the BBC will only be available to UK citizens.


jomaxx




msg:340877
 3:57 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

That really stinks. I can't recall any other project of this kind this being deliberately crippled so that nobody outside the country can access the information.

ronin




msg:340878
 5:20 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmmm... on the one hand that's not really the spirit of the whole thing, is it?

However, on the other hand, I don't see too many people outside the UK queuing up to pay the annual BBC licence fee.

jomaxx




msg:340879
 6:20 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

You could make the same point about any nonprofit institution. The Smithsonian is paid for by US tax dollars; why should Americans pay so that foreigners can use that website? Same for NASA, the Louvre, and any number of .org's and .edu's and cultural institutions.

1Lit




msg:340880
 9:01 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well done BBC - great development.

UK citizens pay an enormous amount from our pockets to keep the fabulous BBC going. I, for one, think it's extremely unfair that tens of millions of people from around the world enjoy the BBC's content on a daily basis for free. I'm sure the Smithsonian gets less than 1% of the foreign traffic of the BBC site.

If foreigners want to access the BBC's content, they should pay for it. As ronin said, I doubt most of them will even be willing to pay a few cents for it. That's how tight-fisted most surfers are - got loadsamoney money for alcohol but not a cent for quality news or artistic output without adverts.

I'd gladly pay twice what I'm currently charged via the License Fee for the BBC's world-class service. I regularly go to their free classical music concerts which would cost at least 20 each if it was a privately-run company.

7_Driver




msg:340881
 11:49 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'd gladly sell my house and all my posessions to help fund the BBC! <grin>

(Well-known quote from "Not the Nine o Clock News" - 80's BBC sketch show)

Bob_Trotta




msg:340882
 12:41 pm on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

You could make the same point about any nonprofit institution. The Smithsonian is paid for by US tax dollars; why should Americans pay so that foreigners can use that website? Same for NASA, the Louvre, and any number of .org's and .edu's and cultural institutions.

Watch what you say, you could start giving ideas....

Besides, it does state that this is for pilot testing.

Fairla




msg:340883
 7:23 pm on Apr 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

If foreigners want to access the BBC's content, they should pay for it.

Actually, a lot of non-Brits would gladly pay for BBC's TV content, but we're not given that option. (Be glad you're not stuck watching BBC America - what a joke.)

Syzygy




msg:340884
 12:35 am on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Bear in mind the point of the entire exercise...

...understand that when public resources have been used to create content, then the overwhelming objective should be to maximise the benefit of that content to the people who helped pay for its creation in the first place.

[creativearchive.bbc.co.uk ]

Syzygy

jomaxx




msg:340885
 3:04 am on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

That appears to be a discussion of the access rights of the public as balanced against the ownership rights of the original creator of the programming.

In other words, (thankfully) not an argument that people who did not contribute to the cost of development of an information archive should not be permitted to access it.

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