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Female webmasters?
Yangtze




msg:341619
 3:18 pm on Dec 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just curious to know if there is any female webmasters.
From my imagination, this is a quite male dominated industry, right?

 

zenn




msg:341799
 2:53 pm on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ambigous names such as Zenn. I have been called a he for many years on the Internet due to my name. But yes we are everywhere, and I do hope to see more woment at the next WebmasterWorld conference. I did feel a bit out numbered at the one in conference in Las Vegas. But yes were are everywhere.

vkaryl




msg:341800
 4:37 pm on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Triarii - my husband probably has seen the previews, though normally he goes for beer or to pick up some little chores during commercial breaks. I, on the other hand, don't even watch the stuff I like - football, baseball, basketball, horse racing and rodeo - I listen to it, since the tv's behind me as I'm at the computer.

I do look at the occasional cute beer or car ad, but the rest of it just goes over and around me....

I am NOT a "tv-oriented" individual AT ALL. Biggest timewaster ever invented.

txbakers




msg:341801
 5:18 pm on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am NOT a "tv-oriented" individual AT ALL. Biggest timewaster ever invented.

I agree! My personal conspiracy theory is that TV, essentially a wonderful invention, was co-opted by the big corporations and used as a means of keeping the masses at bay while they go out and take over the world.

Watching inane "reality" shows and drooling over the latest fashions plays into the global consumer market.

Do we REALLY need to buy a car every three - four years? Do we really need all those new items every year? How many times can you have "new and improved" toothpaste, shampoo, mouthwash, etc.?

In the 1960's TV was proclaimed as a vast wasteland. It still is.

That said, what is really going on on LOST? I don't buy the purgatory argument at all. I'm more of a realist.

(oops.... just admited to being sucked into the bast conspiracy...)

createErrorMsg




msg:341802
 8:53 pm on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

My personal conspiracy theory is that TV, essentially a wonderful invention, was co-opted by the big corporations and used as a means of keeping the masses at bay while they go out and take over the world.

This comes from watching too many episodes of The X-Files.

That said, what is really going on on LOST?

The island is an alien spaceship.

Or perhaps I only think that because I've watched too many episodes of The X-Files. :)

cEM

nzmatt




msg:341803
 11:29 pm on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

So what is the approximate ratio of chicks to guys in this game?

jawfish




msg:341804
 1:12 am on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Lost: I think not on Purgatory... however, I do like the ALIEN spaceship idea... what ever happened to the Jurassic Park theme? I did not care for it, but seemed they dropped it like a hot potatoe!

I am an admitted TV watcher, as I travel every week and stay in hotels. While I work, I "listen" to it!

paybacksa




msg:341805
 2:19 am on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

...as the thread about female webmasters turns to modern day soap operas....

hey guys, how about those Patriots? ;-)

stace




msg:341806
 8:34 am on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm a female & I've been here a few years!

Even went to a Pubcon in London :)

olwen




msg:341807
 9:13 am on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

...as the thread about female webmasters turns to modern day soap operas....

For me it's still Coro Street... I always fancied Ken Barlow.

toltecman




msg:341808
 4:22 pm on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Actually, my wife has been in the web development and support work for almost two years. Her strengths are the integration of php and mysql to provide shopping carts etc for her customers. Please visit <snip> to see some of her work.

[edited by: trillianjedi at 4:26 pm (utc) on Dec. 13, 2004]
[edit reason] No URL's - please see TOS... thanks [/edit]

trillianjedi




msg:341809
 4:32 pm on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Weclome to WebmasterWorld toltecman!

We don't allow URL drops in here I'm afraid, hence my edit to your post.

I've been following this thread with some interest - not because I'm female (I'm not), but I was curious to see if there would be any comments relating to targetting a female audience.

So as a general question to the ladies present - when you create websites, how many of you specifically target the female surfer, and how do you go about that?

TJ

Triarii




msg:341810
 4:33 pm on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am NOT a "tv-oriented" individual AT ALL. Biggest timewaster ever invented.

Amen, vkaryl -- though I am a sucker for an occasional history documentary (ancient Egypt, forensic anthrophology stuff, aviation history, and so forth). My tv usage parallels my Internet "surfing" habits -- research and education over entertainment.

mumbledawg




msg:341811
 2:11 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

I thought research and education was entertainment.

AAnnAArchy




msg:341812
 4:54 am on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

I consider my tv viewing to be part of my webmaster research. It helps keep me in touch with what's new, what's in, what people are buying/selling. Plus, I like tv. Sometimes even low-brow tv that isn't on PBS. ;)

[ETA - Funny, the post that pushes me over the edge to "senior" is about tv]

Triarii




msg:341813
 2:38 pm on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm sorry I ever worked tv into this. So even WW gets co-opted by television at some point.

Note to Self: Never mention tv in a thread. But bald webmasters is apparently a safe diversionary topic!

trillianjedi




msg:341814
 3:36 pm on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Note to Self: Never mention tv in a thread.

I think that's a good philosophy Triarii ;-)

The General forum is not really the place for TV discussion, perhaps we can keep the thread in the direction of female webmastering.

Does a female webmaster have an advantage when it comes to targetting a female audience?

TJ

jatar_k




msg:341815
 4:01 pm on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

I would think they do.

I work with a few sites that are specifically geared towards women. They are operated by a woman and I sure wouldn't have picked the colour schemes that she did. She is also much better at knowing what will 'hit' better than me.

I have spent enough time there now that I have a much better understanding of the approach but if it was the 2 of us starting seperate sites at the same time she would have blown me out of the water long ago.

Horse Feathers




msg:341816
 9:01 pm on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Female here, and budding developer (been doing it since I was in ninth grade, just started selling this year).

I really haven't given a lot of thought to the fact that I'm female in this market, although there is the concern that I might not be taken as seriously as some of my male peers (moreso in my backwoods city of no-man's land than in a more metropolitan area). On the other hand, the male developers in my area tend to, ah... perform similarly as the few women I know do, so I'm not too worried about being discriminated in that area.

I'm more concerned about my age: 24. And the fact that my voice sounds like a little kid's on the phone.

createErrorMsg




msg:341817
 9:12 pm on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

And the fact that my voice sounds like a little kid's on the phone.

This could work to your advantage. Most business owners have kids that are 30 times more computer saavy than they are. ;)

But seriously, HorseFeathers brings up an interesting, and not entirely inappropriate tangent for us to explore: what effect do you find your age has on a client's (a)reaction, (b)liklihood to hire you, and/or (c)treatment of you as a professional.

cEM

jawfish




msg:341818
 11:19 pm on Dec 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

I find age is not near as important as experience, however, often they come hand in hand. If you have a vast portfolio and offer your services at reasonable rates, you are more likely to get the job than someone just starting out or with less expereince in some cases.

Natashka




msg:341819
 1:30 am on Dec 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

wow! 21 pages! I wonder if it's one of the longest threads here? :)

my 5 cents: I'm obviously a gurl, but don't like other female webmasters. They are usually mean and picky, and don't want to exchange links with my site, while guys always swap links without a problem.

trillianjedi




msg:341820
 10:44 am on Dec 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

They are usually mean and picky, and don't want to exchange links with my site

Don't take this the wrong way as I obviously don't know your sites, but your above comment actually to me sounds like a compliment to the female webmastering fraternity?

while guys always swap links without a problem

Mean & picky = fussy. And fussy usually makes for a high quality website.

TJ

Let's try not to let this thread get too sexist ;-)

paybacksa




msg:341821
 2:26 pm on Dec 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm obviously a gurl, but don't like other female webmasters. They are usually mean and picky, and don't want to exchange links with my site, while guys always swap links without a problem.

Hmmm... interesting observation.

As they say, on the internet no one knows if you are a dog. So what happens to your link request approval rate if you change your handle to sound more "masculine"?

Inter-webmaster social dynamics are powerful... as evidenced in the blogging "industry", where blogs (websites) go from zero to 1 million pages per day in a few days (and back again) based on social aspects including femaledom.

In this sense sexism is important to the thread. If I need backlinks from geeky-girrls.com should I hire a hip webmistress to get them? Is there oppportunity to create a service firm SavvySisters.com which specialized in link campaigns where the female factor is at work?

trees




msg:341822
 10:04 am on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

<HUMOR>This thread reinforces the wisdom of not printing "WEB MASTER" on your business card. I have two cards, the formal one says "WEB MANAGER" and the one which I hand out at exhibitions "SEX MANAGER". As well as neither title being gender specific, the primary reason I use them is simply because it allows me to identify exhibition hawker emails, plus bounce ***all*** emails addressed WEBMASTER@.

Having addressed the gender topic, I'm now going to start a thread to protect humanity from posters who use fictional English words, such as "femaledom" and "passle". *S*
</HUMOR>

[edited by: engine at 11:25 am (utc) on Jan. 14, 2005]
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BookMarcAL




msg:341823
 11:37 pm on Dec 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

fact! my wife and me run a internet company.

vkaryl




msg:341824
 12:33 am on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

...protect humanity from posters who use fictional English words, such as "femaledom" and "passle"...

Actually, "passel" is a perfectly good American dialectical word - you will find it in Webster's, and in use in many areas of the southeast and mid-south.

trees




msg:341825
 3:27 pm on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

...protect humanity from posters who use fictional English words, such as "femaledom" and "passle"...
Actually, "passel" is a perfectly good American dialectical word - you will find it in Webster's, and in use in many areas of the southeast and mid-south.

You are indeed correct, vkaryl, and thank you for actually confirming that PASSLE (sic) actually is a fictional word, actually ;-)

[edited by: Woz at 10:09 pm (utc) on Dec. 19, 2004]
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vkaryl




msg:341826
 6:29 pm on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

"passle" is a variant spelling in some areas....

Horse Feathers




msg:341827
 8:39 pm on Dec 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

As well as neither title being gender specific, the primary reason I use them is simply because it allows me to identify exhibition hawker emails, plus bounce ***all*** emails addressed WEBMASTER@.

Oh! That's a good tip, trees. ;-]

createErrorMsg




msg:341828
 4:08 pm on Dec 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have two cards, the formal one says "WEB MANAGER" and the one which I hand out at exhibitions "SEX MANAGER".

I assume you meant, "and the one I hand out at exhibitions says 'SEX MANAGER' "? It's just that your comment about misspelled words makes me think you might have worries about proper grammar and syntax, too.

Question: do you use the words SEX MANAGER to make exhibitionists (no pun intended) not want to email you? I don't really understand that particular word choice. You could easily use "SITE MANAGER" on one and "WEB MANAGER" on another. It would have the same effect you describe (easy email sorting), without being creepy and inappropriate. Just a thought.

cEM

trees




msg:341829
 4:46 pm on Dec 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have two cards, the formal one says "WEB MANAGER" and the one which I hand out at exhibitions "SEX MANAGER".

I assume you meant, "and the one I hand out at exhibitions says 'SEX MANAGER' "? It's just that your comment about misspelled words makes me think you might have worries about proper grammar and syntax, too.

Well nit-picked, cEM. I do have worries about proper grammar and syntax, however I also enjoy making jokes both about proper and improper grammar and syntax. For example, although my two business cards each contain different job titles and email addresses, neither of them SAYS anything; you have to LOOK at them and READ them ;)

Question: do you use the words SEX MANAGER to make exhibitionists (no pun intended) not want to email you? I don't really understand that particular word choice. You could easily use "SITE MANAGER" on one and "WEB MANAGER" on another. It would have the same effect you describe (easy email sorting), without being creepy and inappropriate. Just a thought.

In short yes, and the pun was intended *S*. Without going into potentially offensive detail, business card wording such as mine is viewed as conservative at the types of business exhibitions which I attend. Presenting the cards at non-adult conferences and trade shows is also frequently entertaining, however I doubt they would be appropriate at events in the vicinity of Salt Lake City.

[edited by: engine at 11:26 am (utc) on Jan. 14, 2005]
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