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Given a url - how can I find which hosting company hosts this website?
rhodopsin




msg:380755
 9:57 am on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Given a url - how can I find which hosting company hosts this website?

Would be really great if someone out there can help me.

 

rhodopsin




msg:380756
 9:58 am on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I mean is there some kind of look up tool that anyone knows?

Macro




msg:380757
 9:59 am on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

[samspade.org...]

[edited by: trillianjedi at 10:29 am (utc) on Nov. 8, 2004]
[edit reason] Linking [/edit]

rhodopsin




msg:380758
 10:20 am on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

thanks mate. the thing is that i have looked on this site - there are a number of tools there. But I can;t find one to find the web hosting company from the url.

Could you do me a huge favour and point me to the relevant tool on this site? I have looked pretty hard but can't find the right tool. I would be really, really grateful.

Macro




msg:380759
 10:58 am on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Use the tools to find the IP that the site is on and then run that IP through the queries. A little bit of the detective spirit is required for things like this.

rhodopsin




msg:380760
 11:11 am on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

The IP tools that I have looked at return the Netblock owner - that is the entity that was allocated this IP address. In many cases - the netblock owner is a company that is allocated many IP's and then sells/allocates these onto other parties.

So, the entity returned is not actually the direct, current owner of the IP address. How do I solve this. Help.

rhodopsin




msg:380761
 11:20 am on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am really sorry about being a baby on this - but I have explored many avenues on this samspade.org site and am not going where i want to go. I have also been playing around on netcraft dot com - a similar kind of tool site - with no success. Help.

Brett_Tabke




msg:380762
 11:25 am on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

do a simple traceroute and then ck the owner of the last couple of ip's.

Larryhat




msg:380763
 11:39 am on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Doesn't a Whois search reveal the host(s)?
My listing gives IP numbers. Another Whois reveals
who those belong to, i.e. my site host. - Larry

rhodopsin




msg:380764
 12:55 pm on Nov 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Can you post which whois tool u r using? The url of it .

ddent




msg:380765
 11:17 pm on Nov 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

There are lots of techniques, including but not limited to:
- Traceroute
- Reverse DNS on IPs, either the IP itself or hops in the traceroute
- (This is a neat trick :) - telnet to port 25, the mail server. See what it says. Same thing applies to lots of other apps that have banners, such as FTP.
- Visit the website at the IP address rather than the hostname, see what comes up - often a default page of some kind, since most hosts are doing http/1.1 virtual hosting.
- By the same token, telnet to port 80 and do a simple HTTP/1.0 request.
- Ask

It really depends on the situation...

mirceagoia




msg:380766
 1:43 am on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

You can use also www.netcraft.com (What's that site running feature and then see the IP block owner)...

Mircea

Macro




msg:380767
 9:35 am on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

rhodopsin, if you bung it over to me by sticky I'll see what I can do.

Romeo




msg:380768
 10:11 am on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

as already said, you can easily get the owner of an IP range.
If this is a large provider sub-leasing addresses to his customers, which may be smaller ISPs, which may give IP addresses to their customers, which may be cheap resellers of shared virtual webspace hosting for Joe User ... well, besides doing some additional detective work (which may work *sometimes*, and often not ...) there is no way to find out easily, except asking each party for details about their individual customer relations on all levels from bottom to top.
There is no query tool to a central database, because there is no database.
Sorry.

Regards,
R.

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