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WinME and personal Web Server
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Msg#: 617 posted 4:14 am on Sep 2, 2001 (gmt 0)

So I just got a new computer, came with WIN ME. Picked up some books to play with UltraDev. From every indication this isn't possible on Win ME because it doesn't support personal MS personal web server.

It unbelievable that this could be the case, but it is Microsoft. Am I just SOL with WIN ME, so I have to get 2000, go back to 98, or use XP? Is the home version of XP for which a coupon came with this machine lacking in basic funcationality as Win ME appears to be?

Is there any work around on Win ME?

 

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Msg#: 617 posted 11:19 am on Sep 2, 2001 (gmt 0)

We have it running on WIN98 and 2000Pro. Every indication from Macromedia is that it will not run on ME. Macromedia indicates that it will run on Windows2000 or later but really don't explain much further. What would concern me about home version of XP is that Macromedia indicates that Windows user should run this on 2000Pro. WE have not found a workaround for ME but really haven't had a reason to look for one. ME is "system non grata" in this office.

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Msg#: 617 posted 3:39 am on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

Thanks MNW!

Well, gave up ME. Now trying to resurect an old Win 98 machine. Anytime "view live data" is selected (In UltraDev) it either doesn't find the database, or suggests changing the server. Frontpage was also installedonthis machine. C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\ exists, but it seems PWS may have been installed in C:\Webshare\wwwroot\

Several attempts were made to remove PWS and put it in InetPub instead of the Webshare directory, where I presume UltraDev looks for it, but to no avail. PWS seems rather stubborn.

This sound familiar? Anybody know what might be wrong, or how to correct it?

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Msg#: 617 posted 5:49 am on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

MS does not support the running of the PWS under Windows ME. However, I've heard that people have been able to get it to work, by installing the version from the Windows 98 SE CD or from the NT 4 option pack.

can't confirm this, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that installing PWS on ME would void your support from MS... :(

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Msg#: 617 posted 5:59 am on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

Frontpage was also installed on this machine. C:\Inetpub [wwwroot\...] exists, but it seems PWS may have been installed in C:\Webshare [wwwroot\...]
FrontPage 2000 doesn't require PWS. It makes disk based webs that don't require FrontPage server extensions...therefore the existence of FP doesn't mean PWS is there...like the old versions of FP. You only need PWS or IIS with FP 2000 if you're going to use things like webbots that require FP extensions. FP 97-98, which are no longer supported by MS, required the PWS regardless.
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Msg#: 617 posted 1:50 pm on Sep 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

It was FP98 on the Win98 machine, and I'm sure PWS is on there, but for whatever reason UltraDev doesn't want to work with it..I just can't figure out why.

Looks like something inserted a little extra http stuff in the
C:\Websharehttp://wwwroot\ The http:// is not supposed to be there.

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Msg#: 617 posted 8:30 am on Sep 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

If I recall correctly, you want to be running MS Personal Web Server 4.0, and not the one that came with FP98. This new one is closer to IIS. You have to install this PWS from Win98SE or the NT 4 Option Pack. The earlier version was MS PWS 2.0...Maybe that's your problem?

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Msg#: 617 posted 2:35 pm on Sep 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

Thanks Bill, that sounds logical. It seems that PWS that came with FP98 doesn't do the trick. It's either go acquire a Win98 disk or juice up the machine with enough RAM and get a 2000 disk.

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Msg#: 617 posted 2:55 am on Sep 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

You can download the PWS you want, but it's a little tricky. Go to the [url=www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp]Microsoft Download Center[/url] and search for the keywords "option pack" selecting Windows NT 4.0 as the OS...Then, when you get to the Windows NT 4.0 Option Pack download page, select Windows 95 from the dropdown box, and you'll essentially end up downloading just the PWS.

There are some simple PWS setup instructions [url=support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q195/3/48.ASP]here[/url].

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Msg#: 617 posted 11:55 pm on Sep 12, 2001 (gmt 0)

I stumbled across an article in the Microsoft KB about this that said:
Although PWS 4.0 is not supported in Windows Me, you may be able to install it in Windows Me for testing purposes
Q266456 [support.microsoft.com]
So I guess installing PWS on WinME won't void your warranty after all :)

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