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wfernley




msg:345867
 10:38 pm on Apr 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi :)

I was curious if anyone knows where I can get good professional graphics for free. I have found a few really good ones from doing a search on Webmaster World, but I can't seem to find any good free ones. What does everyone here use? :)

Wes

 

bakedjake




msg:345868
 10:40 pm on Apr 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

professional graphics

for free

They'd be hard to find, I'd guess. I certainly haven't found a good resource. If someone asked me where to find professional SEO for free, I'd probably laugh.

That said, a few students at your local college would probably be more than happy to shoot what you need for beer money and a mention on their portfolio, since they're pretty passionate about their work. I've had good luck with that approach.

zulufox




msg:345869
 12:47 am on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

I just bought one of those 500,000 clipart/photos/fonts etc.. .collections for $50

It has about 60k professional photos, well worth it in my opinion

Too bad I never use the clip art

Cianna




msg:345870
 5:59 am on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

What does everyone here use?

Well, in the first place, if I want "professional" quality, I don't expect to get it for free. I pay for it.

In the second place, <rhetorical question> why is it that so many people expect writers and artists to give their work away for free? </rhetorical question> As one of the former, I can tell you it gets awfully old.

Cianna

wfernley




msg:345871
 12:11 pm on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi thanks for the replies :)

Yeah I know its sad to ask for free images, it's like someone asking me for a free site. The only problem I have is when each of my pages will have at least 6 professional business images and that companies will charge $30 to $50 for each image. Thats at least $180 bucks for 1 page. I know there are clipart packages out there that are anywhere from $30 to $150, but do they have good photo's inside?

Wes

Leosghost




msg:345872
 12:18 pm on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

As one of the "second" ....me too ...!

Plus I take photos ....

Who would dream of going to a super market and saying "I'd like to prepare a 10 course buffet ( and get paid to do so ) ...but as the per head cost will come up a little high can you give me some eye catching deserts for free " ......

The day you and your family and business can survive on air alone ...I'll be OK about it when you ask me to do the same ..

zulufox




msg:345873
 1:11 pm on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

The clipart sets (if they include photos) have professional photos.

Its great for a general set.

Stratus42




msg:345874
 2:42 pm on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't know about professional photos for free.. but you can get nice, professional quality photos for cheap at www.istockphoto.com - depending on how big you want, photos cost from 50cents to a buck -

I'm doing a free website right now for my brother's real estate agency.. I'm already giving him 60 some odd hours of my time, so I wasn't keen to dish out money on decent photos.. but I littered his site with like 20 odd images from istock and it cost me 10 bucks. and in the end, I have a site I'm not ashamed to put in my CV because it's littered with free clip art and microsoft clip-art gallary images (you know the ones.. people looking at their watches wearing business suits holding briefcases)

Lana
:-)

jusdrum




msg:345875
 3:28 pm on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Nothing is free. Especially if you also want quality.

If you want images for your own projects, do some quick searching on the web for cheap royalty free images. Stock CDs can also be a great way to go. If you are doing work for clients, then pass the cost of the CDs on to the client. Once you've built a library of imagery, then you have "free" photos for clients in the future.

Here's something you might want to consider. Even if you could find a free photo source, you shouldn't make them available to clients for free. You are creating a problem that will later come to bite you in the tush. By giving away creative assets, you are opening the door to clients expecting work for free. They figure, I didn't have to pay for photos, why should I have to pay for "X"? I can not stress enough what a bad idea that is. If the client can't afford to pay for imagery, perhaps you should figure out a way to produce something they can afford or the client should buy frontpage and make it themselves.

When I make a proposal for a job, one of the first steps I do is to take an asset inventory. Armed with a checklist, I ask the client what existing assets they have, such as a logo, copy bank, photo library, previously produced marketing materials (like brochures, flyers, whitepapers, etc.), and more. I set the tone that most businesses have these things and they are separate projects to develop them. It establishes the precendence that I am making the website and things like photography are outside of the realm of what I offer. I'm happy to set them up with a photographer or point them toward royalty free images, but it's a separate cost from the rest of the project. I also consider it a separate cost if I am going to oversee the photo shoot and/or develop a shooting script.

Again, I cannot stress enough how important it is for you to make sure clients understand that creative work costs money. If you don't have that attitude, clients will not have respect for the work you produce.

D_Blackwell




msg:345876
 6:05 pm on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've found photos.com to be a pretty good resource for inexpensive photos. You pay a fee for access to royalty free images, and can download whatever you need during that time. (Please don't abuse it - it's a great value within its limitations.)

$30 - $50 for an image is a bargain if it is what you need. I have paid much more than that. Don't look at the little picture price tag. Look at the big picture value. Simply depreciating the cost over some period of time makes them cheap.

Be sure to read jusdrum's post at least twice. Good points. More work = More money. More value = More money. I am over getting beaten down for free extras. If I like the client, project, attitudes - I can choose to be more generous in certain areas.

But usually it's about: 1. People trying to buy a BMW with Chevy money. or 2. People with BMW money trying to keep you in a Chevy. You've got to stop both dead in their tracks.

wfernley




msg:345877
 6:24 pm on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Once again thanks for the posts.

I can realize that yes paying 30 to 50 for an image is expected for a really good professional photo. But for what I need for this client it really isn't neccessary for me to spend that much on just 1 image. I like www.istockphoto.com I'm finding the images I need their and they are only 50 cents, well 75 with the Canadian exchange rate :)

Wes

dickbaker




msg:345878
 2:42 am on Apr 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Sorry, but I do have to chime in on this one. I'm not a professional webmaster--yet--but have been a professional photographer for 26 years.

If you're on a budget, the royalty-free images from places like corbis.com, getty and others are a bargain.

Recognize, though, that those $50 unlimited-use photos are going to be all over different websites. Your client's site isn't going to be all that distinctive if the visitors remember the images from other sites.

The overhead required to run a photo studio is incredible. Before I moved out of my studio, the rent, utilities, insurance and other costs were roughly $50,000 a year. Equipment costs never went down; even the most basic profesional grade camera is a few thousand dollars. A professional grade digital camera can cost as much as $40,000, and will be obsolete within a year.

Photographs--just like websites, cars, houses--share one common trait. You get what you pay for.

wfernley




msg:345879
 11:20 am on Apr 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes I can understand that. But my client who is opening up a new business can't afford distinct graphics. Just like you buying the best camera out there when you first start taking photos. Down the road I'm sure we will be doing that, and most likely hiring a photographer. As for right now though, I think our only option to keep in our budget is Royalty-Free.

Wes

limbo




msg:345880
 11:34 am on Apr 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

500,000 clipart/photos/fonts etc.. .collections for $50

We have one or two of these lying about. A very good suggestion if you want access to many royalty free photographs without the need to purchase individual images. comes in very handy. If you intersperse images from one of these collections with others purchased for exceptional quality you can do no wrong (IMO).

Ta

Limbo

ergophobe




msg:345881
 2:40 pm on Apr 30, 2004 (gmt 0)


In the second place, <rhetorical question> why is it that so many people expect writers and artists to give their work away for free? </rhetorical question> As one of the former, I can tell you it gets awfully old.

Because, your real income comes from your novels. Any idiot in the supermarket checkout line can tell you that.

I say that because I'm constantly being told to write a novel as if I would knock if off in a month and automatically reap the rewards of celebrity book tours.

dillonstars




msg:345882
 9:36 am on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Try www.istockphoto.com for a huge range of very cheap photos. I have found this site invaluable.

Mark_A




msg:345883
 12:37 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Getting professional photos for free I am afraid is what is called an oxymoron truism or platitude.

Platitude from Plato or to bore the socks of something or other :-)

I am afraid that question is deja vu there is no answer right for you!

1. If you want to steal then just take them ok :-)

2. If you want to be fair then pay the photographer for their time what you would pay yourself!

3. If you feel generous (your cup gates's over) then pay a little more than you would pay yourself :-)

I hope that is clear. I can now make my own professional photos, it has taken me about 4 years to get it IT :-) how much is my 4 years worth to you?

Nothing something or a lot.

Thats how much you will pay for professional photograohy.

that is the word professional defined:

professional: nothing something or a lot :-)

Andersen said to Arthur :-) Napoleon to Padington, I better give my computer the boot its slowing down!

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