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Basic CMS system

 3:26 pm on Apr 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Im designing a website for an 'older' couple, they have little to no grasp of html but are good learners!
They currently have a website built by a small company local to them, they have asked me to take it over in the hope that i will be able to do more updates and changes for them with a quicker turn around - and probably cheaper! what i suggested to them was a CMS where they can add and edit there own content,

were talking really basic, hopefully using a .txt file to make the amendments, but at the same time i dont want them to have to do any ftp'ing, simply logging on to some kind of system and editting the text file there and saving the results!

basic layout would be
<meta tags>


<tag line>


<main body>


doesnt need to be valid html or anything fancy just a simple form based CMS where they can edit online information!

Thanks Dan :)



 3:46 pm on Apr 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'd also be interested in finding something like this, if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks.


 3:51 pm on Apr 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Also looking for something similiar, would like it for one of my recipe sites.


 4:17 pm on Apr 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Have you looked into using blog software like Movable Type or Blosxom?


 7:55 am on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

can aybody just list a number of quality CMS systems and ill look into the usability for OAP;s ive just never used one and im looking for simplicity, i dont need fancy comments and archive functions, just simply type in a text file and it display its contents but with a front end to it!


 8:17 am on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

The opensourceCMS site has a whole bunch online you can test out.


 8:27 am on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

wohoo thanks!

Alternative Future

 9:50 am on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

magnolia cms is also an easy to implement and futuristic one using the J2EE framework.



 10:11 am on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am just now finishing out the development of a similar type system that is designed to allow smaller niched and local newspapers to essentially do exactly this and easily syndicate the Headlines into my All headline News site.

Essentially the site has a base template that acts like a 'donut' and the content is inserted automatically when they update. It actually goes a step further and creates a content database and an XML feed of the sites content so that it can be syndicated.

It's got an admin center that is password protected. The articles can be created and images uploaded via the browser. etc etc..

What I've got sounds like it goes well beyond their needs bu I am sure that it could be repurposed for simple CMS needs. It's still a few weeks outside of beta.


 10:19 am on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

dont fancy giving me a sneak peek at ur bete beta?


 10:26 am on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

maybe pm or email me a request and some basic contact info when it's ready for beta.


 12:09 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

so still nobody has any idea of a script or actual system out there that would enable a non-html user to update his/her site?

we really are talking basic? simple interface for a site run by text files? there must be one out there?

i can use the include function of php to insert the text file into certain tags in a html providing the server is running php but my problem is i want the client to be able to do the edits live and online, rather than introducing them to ftp clients and giving them the opperunity to really mess things up!

how could i go about creating a interface for editing text files and uploading them via a browser?


maybe i should go to php forum?


 12:34 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Try Mambo Server if you want a big CMS with loads of options. If you want something less complicated, try Word Press:


It's a blog-type CMS, but it can be easily adapted to your needs. Nice clean interface, and easy editing. It's very stable and mature too. It could be just what you're looking for.


 10:50 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

encyclo- I just downloaded and installed it without much problem. It is too bad it doesn't use a better editor, as this is really one of the easier blog softwares I have used.


 11:19 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but, couldn't you pretty easily create this yourself using forms and includes? Give them a page that has a form that lets them change text (with a PW) which is saved/modified on the server as an include...?


 11:26 pm on Apr 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I can give you some links for free text editors if you like. I have been trying to make a CMS using ColdFusion for a while now. It's taking a long time because it's not a priority but I could give you some useful URL's


 10:08 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

ok my solution - ive used php includes on a css based design page,

basically created about 8 sections to the page





each of these tags are formatted using css which the user has no access to, page design and layout in not going to be altered once aprooved will remain the same for probably years! lol

each tag has its own text file, using the include statement it gets pulled in and shown! smashing part 1 done,

then im using a simple php text editor with a simple password username login to edit the files, file name correspond with the above sections header.txt, intro.txt and so on!

thank you for all your input!



 10:19 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)


Does the text editor you are using include the <head></head> and <html></html> tags?


 10:29 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

no ive simply created the page without any content the draw the content from the individual text files

like so;

<? include ("/var/www/site/wfolder/files/intro.htm")?>

so in theory i can do this with any tag in the html, i.e. the <head> tag so that the clients can ammend there description meta tags and keywords?

this really is a basic system!


 10:34 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Does that not mean that you would be inserting extra <html> and <head> tags?

for instance

<!-----include here------>
<!-----include stops----->

Do you know what i mean?

I could be wrong, but that's the problem i've been having with my CMS. I need an editor that isn't designed to create a whole page, but is made to edit the text and text tags etc...

I hope I am making sense


 10:55 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

what i use:

"is a set of scripts and pages that allow you to view, upload, create, edit, rename, and delete files in folder on your webserver using a browser"

so i literally only vreate a text file, there is no formatting of the text file its just plain text,


sample.txt (held on the server) i create this file using my text editor through php and save it

the on my php page i create an include statement in the relevant part of the page


<div id="sample">

<? include ('sample.txt')?>


end result

<div id="sample">

blah blah blah


the php text editor doesnt add any html tags or php tags into it just strictly a text file! its great especially for novices!


 1:52 pm on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

If you could forward me the url for a download of the text editor, I would really appreciate it.

It would save me a lot of hassle.


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