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Stopping people stealing your content
Too many ways around "no right click"
buksida




msg:347267
 7:18 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Are there any sure fire ways to protect the content of a page, more specifically an image?

Have installed the "no right click" javascript snippet but its easy to get round that.

Either view source and find the URL to the image and paste that into another browser or go to file > save page as > webpage complete and you get everything including images there.

How do you guys protect your content?

 

andrea99




msg:347268
 7:27 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

The easiest way to grab an image from a site which has right click disabled is PrtScrn (next to F12 usually) + Shift, then paste it to any graphics program to crop it.

Disabling Right Click does nothing but annoy your legitimate visitors and make you look foolishly paranoid about something that can never be stopped.

Actually you can prevent the theft of your images by not uploading them...

buksida




msg:347269
 7:56 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

The print screen will only work for images within the screen size which this is not.

You havent really answered my question, just told me I look foolish, thanks.

trillianjedi




msg:347270
 8:00 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Are there any sure fire ways to protect the content of a page, more specifically an image?

There's nothing you can do to prevent it being taken in the first place, no. If it can be displayed in a browser, then it can be downloaded.

TJ

andrea99




msg:347271
 8:04 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

You havent really answered my question, just told me I look foolish, thanks.

I am not one to sugar-coat an unpleasant truth, I'm trying to save you from looking foolish. You're welcome. A more concise answer if that's what you want is: impossible.

buksida




msg:347272
 8:36 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thats what I needed to hear ... didn't necessarily want to hear it but...

So remove the right click block and let them thieve away is the way to go then?

andrea99




msg:347273
 8:38 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well buksida I could elaborate a bit on this. The right-clicker's are your friends, they are the people who just want to save a copy in their "My Pictures" folder so they can show the family on Sunday or email a copy to an associate. These are not people that you want to alienate, they will spread your fame and good will, they will not harm you.

On the other hand, someone who truly wants to steal your content will do so regardless so if you are only annoying your friends and fans you will look foolish...

Mr Bo Jangles




msg:347274
 9:01 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

However, the 'no right click' *will* stop 60% or more of those that would steal content - and they won't know how to get around it.
I think those that say different are waaaaaay over-estimating average joe's computer literacy.
It is best to bear in mind that 70% of the population can't look up something in the *printed* Yellow pages i.e. they're too dumb!

thank you

andrea99




msg:347275
 9:09 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

But what harm is average Joe going to do? You're espousing the same mentality as the RIAA.

Why do you have a hateful attitute toward someone who just wants to collect your pictures on their hard drive? They are the one's who will promote your site and send people to it. Unless you annoy them with a disabled right click...

You should sue them, the scoundrels! That'll teach 'em!

buksida




msg:347276
 9:13 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

We have no worries with people using the image for private purposes (its a town map). However there are enough other scubags out there that just want to lift it to put on their sites.

I have plastered a big copyright www.domain.com in huge letters faded out to 10% across it though.

jamie




msg:347277
 9:17 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

there are digital copyrighting services which implant a copyright in the image when you save it as a gif or jpg. one of them works well as a plugin for photoshop.

if you find your image elsewhere on the web, then you can prove it's authenticity with the digital copyright notice.

however, this still does not prevent a screen capture.

andrea99




msg:347278
 9:53 am on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

However there are enough other scubags out there that just want to lift it to put on their sites.

And those can be located with Google since the site would probably have to use the town name in text with the map. I think a routine check (or Google Alerts) will let you know if it has happened and most offenders will just remove the copied graphic when caught and sent a boilerplate DMCA notice.

There may be the occasional nut that requires actual legal action but the time to worry about him is when he appears. Because if he's that stubborn a nut, a disabled right click wouldn't have stopped him.

stapel




msg:347279
 5:04 pm on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Mr Bo Jangles said: 'no right click' *will* stop 60% or more of those that would steal content....

I have to agree. While the "no right click" thing can be annoying, it will stop an astounding number of plagiarisers, some of whom will actually write to complain that "I need this to finish my paper, you effing itch-bay!" or something similar.

Sadly, many (most?) of the scrapers are scraping because they are morons who can't create anything on their own. As such, they also cannot figure out "View Source", "Print Screen", or their browser's cache. So a stupid little Javascript is more than sufficient to shut them down.


andrea99 said: Why do you have a hateful attitute toward someone who just wants to collect your pictures on their hard drive?

Where did he say he hated the scrapers and wanted to hurt them? I only see a request for information regarding copyright protection. Please clarify. Thank you.


andrea99 said: They are the one's who will promote your site and send people to it.

Wow. Talking about "assuming facts not in evidence"! <smile>

While many plagiarisers do indeed claim that they scraped and re-posted or otherwise re-used the content of others as a "compliment" or as "free advertising", I'm afraid that this is neither logical nor in accordance with current legal theory. If you want to "compliment" a site, say nice things about. If you want to "advertise" a site, post a link to it.

See? No scraping or plagiarism required!


andrea99 said: There may be the occasional nut that requires actual legal action....

How about an average of one a week?


buksida said: I have plastered a big copyright www.domain.com in huge letters....

Watermarking is good, though only effective for JPEG type images (photos, etc). For GIF type images (cartoons, logos, etc), you either need to make the label obvious (as you have done) or else hide it with transparency. (Details upon request.)

Something else that's useful: The scrapers, usually being morons, very frequently don't bother renaming the images they've taken. If you use a somewhat unique naming system (something like "frog_3q4.jpg" instead of just "frog.jpg"), then you may be able to find copies through Google Images and similar services. Of course, that leaves you with the hassle of having to hunt down all of your images, which is a major pain in the a$$. So try watermarking and such to try to prevent the scraping in the first place.

For text, you might want to try using the Copyscape service. Since starting with Copyscape, our incidence of plagiarism (that we've been able to detect, anyway) has gone from about one a week to about one a quarter. It's been wonderful!

My best wishes to you.

Eliz.

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