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US lawmaker renews push against Internet gambling
Brett_Tabke




msg:369923
 4:37 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Reuters [today.reuters.com]

Virginia Rep. Bob Goodlatte will reintroduce a bill this week that would prohibit Internet gambling, a fast-growing industry valued at about $12 billion, a spokeswoman for Goodlatte said on Tuesday.

Goodlatte, a Republican, first introduced legislation to ban online gambling nearly a decade ago. In 2000, his bill had strong support in the House but was unexpectedly defeated due in part to efforts by Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who represented gambling interests, according to the spokeswoman.


 

Manga




msg:369924
 4:48 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

The previous version of Goodlatte's bill would make it illegal to use the Internet for gambling and give law enforcement officials the authority to stop credit card payments to offshore Internet gambling sites.

So if this guy has his way someone can be thrown in jail just for making a bet online. Typical government intrusion in the private lives of its citizens.

Webwork




msg:369925
 4:48 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Everywhere you turn in the USA there is a local (State/City) government agency touting gambling as a vehicle of tax relief. This bill will soon enough find support necessary to make it law.

woop01




msg:369926
 5:01 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

The worst part of all of it is they don't want to outlaw gambling, they want to outlaw gambling that they don't get a cut of.

celgins




msg:369927
 5:07 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's amazing how some types of profiting are frowned upon, while others are ignored.

What is the big deal with someone gambling online anyway?

Makes no sense to me.

dwedeking




msg:369928
 5:35 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

What is the big deal with someone gambling online anyway?

outlaw gambling that they don't get a cut of.

Governments are no different than the Mob. They don't care what you do as long as they can have a piece of it.

Junanagoh




msg:369929
 6:11 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

So then why dont they just add extra taxs these online companies?

woop01




msg:369930
 6:23 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

They're not in the United States.

LifeinAsia




msg:369931
 6:31 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

So then why dont they just add extra taxs these online companies?

Better compromise- do it the same way they do things offline- license and regulate it.

To legally operate in the U.S., you need to register for an online gaming license (just like offline casinos do). Licensed gaming sites display a special graphic on their site with their license number, are subject to auditing and compliance (just like offline), and pay taxes on their revenue. Consumers have an organization to complain to for any irregularities. Non-licensed gambling sites will be illegal in the U.S.

This may also alleviate the fears of many credit card processors- as far as I know, most will not work with online gambling sites.

tntpower




msg:369932
 6:33 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

The worst part of all of it is they don't want to outlaw gambling, they want to outlaw gambling that they don't get a cut of.

Exactly. Cannot agree more.

Manga




msg:369933
 10:51 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Governments are no different than the Mob. They don't care what you do as long as they can have a piece of it.

So true. It's quite nauseating actually.

midwestguy




msg:369934
 11:08 pm on Feb 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I wonder if the real purpose of this law is to make it easy and "clear cut" for the credit card companies to NOT honor payments made by US citizens to off shore casinos. There was one paragraph in the linked to story talking about that.

I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice....But my understanding is that it's already illegal for a US citizen to place a bet *by wire*, i.e. via phone or digital network -- unless they are in a place like Nevada that may allow state residents to gamble at the online sites of that state's casinos while present within that state's borders.

Please note I'm NOT an advocate or supporter of these kinds of laws. Even though I don't gamble online, I do believe folks should be able to.

Heck, I think they passed a law around 1950 outlawing poker players crossing state lines to gamble in "illegal" poker games (i.e. home games).

As for affiliate/advertising income from casinos, I recall hearing The Sporting News agreeing to a multi million dollar "settlement" (i.e. fine) for running advertisements for online casinos.

From what I recall, the governments stance was if a casino paid the publisher based on how many people the advertisment brought in, the publisher was deemed as some sort of "contributing accesory" to the "crime" of "internet gambling".

From the Land of the Free,

Louis

swirl




msg:369935
 1:15 am on Feb 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

In a way, this is EXCELLENT legislation.

The more legistlation that passes into law that restricts people from doing mundane things -- gambling online, smoking outdoors, looking at porn, driving with a car radio on, etc, the closer we get to a critical tipping point in our society -- the point where ordinary people who are otherwise respectful of authority and subservient to restrictive government edicts spontaneously encircle the lawmaking establishment in much the same way that the conspirators within Caesar's senate encircled him on the fateful day his tyrannical rule came to an end.

Essex_boy




msg:369936
 6:56 pm on Feb 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Its strange UK laws are entirly diffrent here, we activly encourage firms to set up in this line of work.

Sooooo I wonder when GI joes gonna come knocking uninvited at number 10?

gmiller




msg:369937
 11:27 am on Feb 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

The DoJ claims online gambling is illegal because of the Wire Act. However, the Supreme Court has previously ruled in multiple non-gambling cases that the Internet is not a wired communications medium. This bill amends the Wire Act to include the Internet and allows the government to go after banks and credit card companies. Online gambling companies don't like credit cards anyway, but losing access to bank accounts would be a serious problem.

If this passes, it also signals the U.S. government's intent to simply accept the economic sanctions authorized by the WTO.

Essex_boy




msg:369938
 2:36 pm on Feb 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

What are the sanctions?

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