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Staring at a Monitor all day
Does eyestrain affect you?
grnidone



 
Msg#: 1073 posted 8:36 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

After working on a computer all day, my eyes and head ache.

I've tried different monitors, different settings, and even checked my eyes, and nothing seems to help. It seems like everyone I know doesn't have a problem with this.

How do you all do it? Am I the only one on the earth with this problem?

Keyword research on the Overture search term tool is the *worst*..

 

mivox

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Msg#: 1073 posted 8:41 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

I used to have a terrible problem with my eyes losing focus towards the end of the day, and a general strained feeling and occassional headaches...

Since I got my eyeglasses replaced, new prescription and everything, I haven't had nearly so much of a problem.

The Contractor

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Msg#: 1073 posted 8:49 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

<<How do you all do it? Am I the only one on the earth with this problem?>>

I use a laptop with a active matrix screen. I too will get headaches, blurry eyes etc from sitting in front of a CRT monitor. This has solved those problems. :)

agerhart

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Msg#: 1073 posted 8:52 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

My eyes are about to burn out of my head right now.......I have to remember to blink!

Travoli

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Msg#: 1073 posted 8:54 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

yeah no kidding. Staring at the monitor all day long, and then going home and staring at a monitor takes it's toll.

miles

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Msg#: 1073 posted 8:59 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

It cant be good. My mom told me not to sit so close to watch the TV or you will go blind and now I sit 2.5 feet or under from my monitor. I wonder if we will get stigmatisim or some other eye problems.

mivox

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Msg#: 1073 posted 9:03 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have an astigmatism, and have since (probably) before I got glasses at age 4. I don't think it's something you can "get" from staring at a CRT screen. I've heard of other things that supposedly make you go blind, but never seen proof of either one. ;)

I've also heard that having children read/do up-close paper work too much when they are too young can cause bad eyesight, because their eyes do not get enough practice focusing at various distances. If that one's true, it's too late for me anyhow.

txbakers

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Msg#: 1073 posted 9:07 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

You're not the only one. I've been blessed with perfect vision all my life, but I've begun to notice some eyestrain as well. I've even taken to making my font sizes a bit larger than normal

Still no need for glasses, and no headaches.

oilman

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Msg#: 1073 posted 9:12 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

I can't wear contact lens anymore for the most part but especially when I'm working.

My best suggestion is to buy the best monitor you can afford and run it at at least 85 Hz refresh or buy a flat panel. I'm on the verge of buying a flat panel simply because my office in the corner of the house where the main power comes in and I can't run my monitor above 60 Hz or else it goes wiggy.

sean

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Msg#: 1073 posted 11:15 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

Does eyestrain affect you?

No. My eyes are bionic. Sixteen hours in a row is a cakewalk... well, most of the time.* Not only are my eyes the strongest part o' Sean, they are my only incredible feature.

What gives? I don't remember exactly, but my glasses might have come with some kind of option for heavy computer users. Also, I drink a ton of water, which is good for both the hydration and the breaks.

* bionic features guaranteed until I hit the big 30, all bets are off after I reach "the other side" :)

Lorel

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Msg#: 1073 posted 12:27 am on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've been working on computers since about '87. I have 20x20 vision but a bit farsighted and started wearing reading glasses about 6 years ago--not related to the computer I'm sure (I'm past 50). I work at my computer from dawn till bed time some days and never get headaches or eye strain except late in evening when I've been at it all day.

I have used a Mac most of those years and I've heard they are better on the eyes but I haven't researched it. I don't have a special monitor--in fact it's about 6 years old. I keep my monitor about 2 feet in front of my face and a bit downwards--not level with my eyes-- so I don't have to lift my head to read it. I also have a chair with good back support adjusted at the right height and keyboard set so my arms are level from elbows to wrist. It all flows together to make me very comfortable sitting here all day.

rewboss

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Msg#: 1073 posted 12:43 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

After working on a computer all day, my eyes and head ache.

See, it's the "all day" bit that's the problem. It's a combination of lots of things -- screen flicker (50Hz is the norm, 100Hz is expensive but slightly better), intense concentration, fatigue, lack of physical exercise... it all adds up. If your eyesight is not perfect, that makes it 10 times worse (see your optician).

You need frequent breaks (if only a few minutes at a time), fresh air, exercise and sleep. Whatever you do, make sure you have a life. Physical exercise is important: if you sit in front of a computer all day, you will be mentally tired, but not physically -- that can lead to sleep disorders. I try to walk at least a mile or two every day, and I often go out with my friends to the pub or to play pool.

Make sure you eat properly, too, and drink plenty especially in summer (dehydration is a common cause of headaches, and according to some studies most people simply don't drink enough). Take at least one day off in seven when you don't go anywhere near a computer. (If your boss has trouble with that, convert to Judaism and threaten him with the race relations board if he doesn't give you Friday evenings and Saturdays off. ;) )

backus

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Msg#: 1073 posted 12:50 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

My eyes are worse depending on the heat. In the winter, fine, in the summer, headaches, dry eyes, itching. terrible!

agerhart

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Msg#: 1073 posted 1:17 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

>>>>I've been blessed with perfect vision all my life,

I am the only one in my family (big Italian family), who doesn't wear glasses....but I think the computer is ruining it.

Brett_Tabke

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Msg#: 1073 posted 8:58 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

I used to have serious problems with it. Then I got a large monitor and cranked up the font sizes. Generally, not a problem any more, although I can certainly tell it from my 22inch monitor which broke to the 19inch I'm using now.

Also, use Opera and get friendly with the + key (extend thumb out from mouse and press the numeric keypad plus).

Fonts are one of the main reasons that I redid the software here. Of those that have edited their skin (500+), 200 people have increased the font size from 2 to 3 here. That's amazing!

floater

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Msg#: 1073 posted 9:22 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Bad thing is when you realize that working on large quality monitor over 85hz is the best for your eyes, you already have bad eyesight. I was 10 when I got my first pc [that was 16 years ago :) ], so since then I'm spending most of my time front of the monitor. As we now in the beging there was no chance to get a "good" monitor. People in the same age, with perfect eyes [meaning ove generations] also ruined their sight a bit. So I guess good equimnet with godd contact or glasses. And less coffee!

chew

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Msg#: 1073 posted 9:23 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Like Rewboss said.. hydration is important. The office buildings with air conditioning systems that suck all the moisture out of the air can drain you and your eyes.

After dorming and being forced to buy a meal plan from the cafeteria which served nice artery clogging cuisine, I grew a liking to whatever small amount of health food they served. I found that drinking a glass of fresh carrot juice at the end of the day helps with my eyes. Or if carrots scare you, vitamin A supplements are another option.

Brett_Tabke

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Msg#: 1073 posted 9:26 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Atleast we have color monitors today. When I was doing green and amber screens all day, I'd get to the point where edges of stuff would start to appear green. A door, a window, edges of bright light would have a green tint to them. It was like walking through my own personal "matrix".

txbakers

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Msg#: 1073 posted 9:31 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ah yes, love those green screens! We still use them somewhat for our AS/400s. Granted, you can change the colors around with today's 5250 emulators, but it's still essentially green screen.

CromeYellow

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Msg#: 1073 posted 12:34 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

At the office I use a pretty standard 17" monitor, which used to leave my eyes feeling gritty and tired, with the odd bit of defocusing the the right eye (!)

At the moment I've been away from that screen for 5 months and am just using my laptop. Smaller screen - no eye probs. I'm getting a flat screen when I get back.

rewboss

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Msg#: 1073 posted 2:43 pm on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Of those that have edited their skin (500+), 200 people have increased the font size from 2 to 3 here. That's amazing!

I'm willing to bet that most of those 200 people have their screen resolutions set far too high.

For a 17" monitor, 1024x768 is ever so slightly too high a resolution for most people to read comfortably without straining their eyes.

The Contractor

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Msg#: 1073 posted 5:07 pm on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

CromeYellow - flat panels are the answer to eye strain. I can stare at my 15-inch notebook screen at 1024x768 all day and have no problem. I have a 21-inch diamondtron tubed crt set at 85hz and I still get eye strain after 5-6 hours. Just don't try any serious photo/design work on a LCD as the colors are not as true/accurate.

jatar_k

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Msg#: 1073 posted 6:15 pm on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

I am definitely the anomoly here but the way I stop from getting headaches is decreasing my font size. If I work on someone else's machine for about 20 min with a larger font size I get a headache. When I go back to mine it abates almost right away. It also keeps people from looking over my shoulder because no one can read my screen.

I also find that if the surrounding light is too bright I get very sore eyes. Lower light seems to stave off the brain aches better.

rzfree



 
Msg#: 1073 posted 9:07 am on Jun 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have read somewhere that you have to refocus your eyes to something distant once in a while i.e. through the window, preferably green colors. I combine this with some brief physical exercises : 1-2min and back to work :-)

bluelook

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Msg#: 1073 posted 10:42 am on Jun 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

>I use a laptop with a active matrix screen

In my case I think that it was my laptop that ruined my eyes. Since last month I have a serious eye fatigue. Iīve even tried to be in front of my laptop with my sun glasses :)
Damn computers... canīt live with them, canīt live without them...

Slud

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Msg#: 1073 posted 12:54 pm on Jun 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

The_Contractor's got it right. LCD is the way to go. I can read off that at work all day with only a hint of fatigue. I go home to a 21" flat-screen trinitron and it makes my head crazy. I'm *this* close to trading in the extra screen space for an LCD.

Sidenote: ClearType = Yum!

mayor

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Msg#: 1073 posted 2:19 pm on Jun 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

I went from a 17" CRT monitor to an 18" flat panel LCD display a couple months ago. Now I'm focussing on a display surface that is about 30 inches away instead of one that is about 15 inches away.

I was struggling a lot with eye strain with the old CRT. With the new LCD panel, the strain is almost non-existant. As an added bonus, I'm running the LCD comfortably at a higher resolution (1024x768) which allows me to have more information and graphics on the screen.

Not bad for a member of the bi-focal crowd with advanced glaucoma, huh?

Finally, I recommend a screen with a black bezel. The black surround creates better contrast for the display against it's background.

If you go for a LCD panel, get a good one. Mine is an 18" "reconditioned" (it was as good as new)Sony SDM-M81 from a winning bid of about $800 on Ubid.

The LCD will run at a small fraction the energy cost of a CRT so take that into account when you begin to choke on the cost of a LCD. I figure I save about 30 cents a day ($120 a year ... $360 over anticipated 3-year life of the display) so that takes away some of the pain of the high LCD cost.

nell

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Msg#: 1073 posted 2:44 pm on Jun 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

Occasional visits to porn sites can correct both one's vision and, in some cases, provide much needed exercise.

HyperGeek

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Msg#: 1073 posted 5:26 pm on Jun 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

Brett totally hit the nail on the head with that one.

I used to work in monochrome all of the time (five to six days a week from seven to ten hours each day) and things started to get yellowish/greenish around their contours.

Gee, and all this time I've been blaming it on the psychedellics.

;o

gsx

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Msg#: 1073 posted 6:21 pm on Jun 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

Get some glasses (even if you have 'perfect' vision). Get them tinted, preferably green. Optician gave me that advice.

Only other advice, same as other members, is get a TFT/LCD monitor.

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