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Site gone again from Inktomi
Head bashing starting again?
johnnydequino




msg:18864
 3:57 am on Nov 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Looks like my PFI site is gone again off Inktomi. My "free" site is also no longer on inktomi. Whatever algo they are testing, it sucks.

Anyone else notice the same pattern that occurred last month?

jd

 

kanetrain




msg:18954
 5:19 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

We are still gone. Over two months MIA. I have literally spent over 100 hours working and diagnosing this problem.... to no avail. Ink and my reseller seem sure that it's not a PFI problem.
Like I said, my site disappeared right after PFI, so naturally, it appeared that it was caused by PFI. I am at a complete loss. Positiontech was helpful for a while (when they thought the had an answer)... now, that my other page has been removed and the problem hasn't been fixed (like they said it would)... I can't get them to return my calls at all.
Hopefully we can find some kind of resolution soon. This has been a maddening experience.

flobaby




msg:18955
 6:02 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

Kanetrain,
What baffles me is why there is no allowance for human intervention. With your ongoing problem, as researched as it has been, it seems as though someone at Ink should be able to pull up a database and type your URL into it, fixing the problem. Guess that's how things work in my little dreamworld.

kanetrain




msg:18956
 8:20 pm on Jan 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

It has certainly been confusing.

panic




msg:18957
 12:36 am on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

What baffles me is why there is no allowance for human intervention. With your ongoing problem, as researched as it has been, it seems as though someone at Ink should be able to pull up a database and type your URL into it, fixing the problem. Guess that's how things work in my little dreamworld.

That's the problem... most don't have a contact at Inktomi. In fact, I know for a fact that some of the resellers don't have contacts at Inktomi.

kanetrain




msg:18958
 12:49 am on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

I saw Ink results at Yahoo a while ago.. anyone else seeing those currently?
I hope they don't roll out any time soon.

canuck




msg:18959
 11:06 am on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

Well seems my webpages are in Inks database, however, I've had 0 referrals since mid-November and obviously they are completely MIA for any search.

Interesting these webpages were doing fine in Hotbot for about 2 months prior to mid-November after I had submitted them to Positiontech's PFI.

Perhaps some editor got anal with editorial penalties? Time to set up another domain? Anyone run into the same problem?

- canuck

percentages




msg:18960
 11:16 am on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

Folks, once again DO NOT PFI, there is no need. If you have a reasonable number of backlinks you will be crawled and indexed for free.

If you don't have backlinks you may or may not get indexed via PFI, but it won't do you any good either way in competitive SERPs.

Inktomi behaves just like Google in 2001. Just do what you did for Google in 2001 and you will be fine for now at least :)

tennismaster




msg:18961
 11:40 am on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

Percentages,

Not sure I agree as Ink takes so long to include
you for free.

It took us 8 months before our free pages were
in the index, and we got great traffic for 3 months, then we were thrown out with a penalty!

If the keywords are not too competitive, PFI
can get you in in a week or so, and you can tweak
your page and get some traffic in the meantime.

There does seem to be a spam cleanup going on at Ink at the moment. We have been hit and so have others, but looking at the serps it is long overdue - they are terrible.

TM

daveclarke




msg:18962
 11:18 pm on Jan 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Same here. Our site went from #1 to nowhere all of a sudden - apparently some sort of algo change. The site had not been reindexed or spidered since, so I went for PFI hoping I would be able to get some answers. Both bCentral and PositionTech have been very unhelpful - stonewalling in fact.

Fortunately, we are still number one in Google and most others. By the way, my main search term is not very competitive - I'm probably the only one using it as a keyword! (I've looked at many SERPs).

Everything "Citizen Kane" says about Ink is 100% true. Give me Google any day.

kanetrain




msg:18963
 8:35 pm on Feb 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

My home page is still phantomed out. Interestingly, I submitted an internal page that looks exactly like my homepage (to see if perhaps there could be something on my homepage that was causing it to trip up and not get indexed)... the internal page shows up perfectly, is indexed and driving traffic.
Absolutely mind-blowingly baffling.

Here's what we know we know so far -
1) It's not anything "on page" that is causing the phantoming problem.
2) The phantoming is only affecting my home page.
3) We previously thought that Ink was confused and was treating an old homepage as if it were my current one. This was an incorrect diagnosis. We got the old one removed and our home page is still phantomed out.
4) No spam penalty at all (that we know of).

Baffling. Still working on it.

canuck




msg:18964
 4:26 am on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

My pages were doing fine for 2-3 months before they disappeared in mid-November. It'll be interesting to see if your new pages hold in the weeks/months to come.

Time to start building some robots-excluded Ink-only pages again... *mutter*

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