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Has Inktomi dropped adult websites?
my inktomi sites in msn gone
irishdude

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Msg#: 2215 posted 9:39 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Has Inktomi dropped all websites with adult content? I used to geta lot of traffic via MSN through my inktomi listing but past few days nothing? Is it temporary? will they reappear? or should I not bother with Inktomi anymore?

 

Mohamed_E

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Msg#: 2215 posted 9:47 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sunshyn

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Msg#: 2215 posted 7:24 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

That's just ridiculous! I have a few paid inclusion pages, all of which suddenly stopped getting traffic from MSN. They are non-adult jewelry pages, perfectly appropriate for young teens and up. Therefore, I guess I can assume that my navigation which mentions two more somewhat more adult-oriented pages (w/appropriate warning between on those pages) is the problem.

I get to put up with being RIPPED OFF for money just recently paid for my very NON-ADULT jewelry item pages. Otherwise, I can screw up my entire navigation and confuse the hell out of the customers who see categories drop in and out depending on where they are looking.

Something tells me Positiontech is going to try to keep my money no matter what, but I'm complaining and possibly stopping payment for the page I paid for just last week!

tigger

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Msg#: 2215 posted 7:29 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Has Inktomi dropped all websites with adult content?

I've not seen this, although traffic has never been great I still get some referrals from MSN all from free ink pages

makemetop



 
Msg#: 2215 posted 8:31 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

INK has dropped a lot of adult content in PFI (including mine) - and (it seems) a fair amount of free listings too. Certain keyword combination seem to have triggered the drop.

irishdude

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 2215 posted 9:43 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

anyone know what keywords they have targeted? or how they have gone about doing it? does INKTOMI stipulate no adult websites in their PFI?

outlaw4161

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 2215 posted 5:29 pm on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Inktomi hasn't dropped the sites. They are just buried. I talked with positoin tech yesterday and they checked into it. They told me my sites were in fact still in. I got 2 clicks on Monday. Not bad for 25 sites huh? If Inktomi want's rock groups, amazon.com books and celebrities to be found under adult terms, mabey I'll put all my adult sites under those terms. I mean the surfers must want the sites. They click them and pay for them. What gives Inktomi the right to say your site is "adult" in nature therfore we will just bury you. I pay the same as non adult sites. Inktomi, get ready for some adult sites under Britney Spears! That's my 2 cents worth.

panic

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 2215 posted 11:18 pm on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Irishdude,

Try this. Make a really obscure title, and index it. Wait a few days, then do an exact search for that title. If your page comes up, then that means you've probably got an editorial action against you. If you don't see your site anywhere, chances are you probably got kicked out of Inktomi all together.

-panic

Sunshyn

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 2215 posted 5:55 am on Jul 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

I complained to Positiontech. They implied that the reason my 3 jewelry pages are being censored as adult pages is because one of the pages linked to another page which contains a picture which may or may not be considered somewhat adult in nature. I find it a very dubious excuse at best. The item itself is in no way adult in nature and neither is the page they are filtering as adult. My pages featuring earrings and bracelets have entirely disappeared from searches, and I'd like to hear their rationalization for that.

I suppose they'll come up with something in the nature of a page which has a link to another page which contains a link to content which may or may not be considered adult by someone is considered an adult page. :-P

I never would have paid to be in this index had I known that it buries links which it arbitrarily decides it doesn't like. I think potential customers should think twice about paying for indexing with them, at least until very clear specifics are listed about what may suddenly be buried next.

MrSpeed

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Msg#: 2215 posted 12:31 pm on Jul 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

I complained to Positiontech. They implied that the reason my 3 jewelry pages are being censored as adult pages is because one of the pages linked to another page which contains a picture which may or may not be considered somewhat adult in nature.

How in the heck did Ink find your pages out of the millions of pages they have indexed? There must have been some keywords or description that set off an alert? I have no idea what kind of jewelery you were showing but I'm guessing it goes on parts of the body that are normally coverd by clothes. Perhaps you had some keywords in the link that set off an inspection?

I know a lot of people could care less about adult sites. But there are a lot of keyword and keyword phrases which could used in mainstream or adult sites. I think it's only fair that Ink explains what they are doing.

panic

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 2215 posted 12:37 am on Jul 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think Inktomi flags pages with certain keywords and has editorial look through it.

Or sometimes, editorial will just check random domains for issues such as keyword stuffing, etc. After all, that IS what they get paid for. :P

-panic

Sunshyn

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 2215 posted 1:24 am on Jul 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

MrSpeed, anklets and belts might be said to be worn where clothing often is, but it becomes more of a stretch to apply that to bracelets and earrings. I can't imagine what they are thinking unless Panic's idea is correct, and they've unfairly rated the entire domain as adult due to a small percentage of pages which have items meant for adults and contain warnings even though they don't contain nudity. If so, that leaves me with no possible way to make my pages viewable again in their searches... unless it was those mild warnings on those other pages. Wouldn't it be ironic if one had to REMOVE child blocks in order to make one's site NOT rate as being an adult site?

The product pages they have censored are marketed for teens. Perhaps they stretch the idea of adult content to contain any products not meant for use by small children.

panic

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 2215 posted 4:38 pm on Jul 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Maybe some 12 year old girl decides to lookup earrings and bracelets and gets to MrSpeed's or Irishdude's site. Then she sees the link to the adult content.

I think what they're trying to stay away from is that whole 1999 adult site epidemic where adult sites were optimizing for non-relevant keywords.

Quite honestly, I'm glad Inktomi filters adult content for that very reason.

-panic

MrSpeed

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Msg#: 2215 posted 5:41 pm on Jul 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

panic - I don't have adult sites. But I also don't ignore what goes on that side of the web either.

Sunshyn- You said "The product pages they have censored are marketed for teens."

There has been some pushback fron the credit cards companies towards adult sites lately. Also certain AVS companies have taken steps to remove sites from their system that mention the words teen, young etc...

My guess is that Ink was being a little proactive and penalized sites that may have the word teen and just about any part of the anatomy mentioned on the same page.

panic

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 2215 posted 5:43 pm on Jul 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Can you blame them?

-panic

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