| 5:29 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I agree with you in a sense. However, I have had GREAT results from Inktomi and Fast (Especially Ink.). I just had to learn which pages to pay for and which ones weren't worth it. If I had to choose one page to submit, I would choose a page that has the most keywords included on it.
If you sold Calendars for DOGS, you would probably be better off submitting a page that listed all of the dog breeds rather than submitting your front page that maybe just said "DOG CALENDARS" and had a picture of ONE calendar.
If you have a page that has a complete list of all calendars/dog breeds, you would probably get more hits submitting this page. You will more than likely get more hits from a page that has "German Shepherd Dog Calendar, Bassett Hound Dog Calendar, Great Dane Dog Calendar, Poodle Dog Calendar, etc. etc. etc." There are definitely situations where your main page is not the best page to submit.
You do need to pay close attention and submit to each search engine differently than the others.
It is true that most PFI engines will not spider your site if you are paying for inclusion. As far as FAST dropping your site, I have been having a similar problem, but when it happens, I find the people at FAST are WONDERFUL about helping me get the listing back up. However, I do have to admit I have a good contact at FAST that is really helpful.
| 7:39 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Fast first dropped all the pages to my site that had gotten back into their database via the free crawler, leaving only my one page I submitted via Lycos InSite Select (easily the dumbest thing I have ever done as a webmaster, which is saying quite a lot I suppose).
Now that one PFI page was removed yesterday.
At best, it's simply an appalling level of incompetence.
| 7:59 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I simply cannot get fast to my site, I need to start with the bribes.
| 9:11 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)|
We are well-listed on Fast but current referrals are just .03%!
I wouldn't worry too much if that's all you get.
It seems it isn't used by surfers for reasons that I don't understand.
| 9:21 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I agree with 4 crest
Submit the page you want traffic on
I have not have any problems with fasts pfi it works great for me, and i think there is a lots of members that have succes of it too.
I can just hope it works for you.
| 11:42 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Welcome to WebmasterWorld, Ivan88bb!
> Only the index page is listed.
That is the deal with PFI, you pay to get the page(s) you choose included, not to get the whole site included.
| 11:48 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Pretty bad if they remove all of the free-listed pages after you use PFI, though. I think the new PFI services are not really a very good product - if everyone had to pay, their database would be too small, and so they are almost exploiting those that do pay IMHO.
Sometimes it works well, but overall I've always been pretty dubious about paid inclusion. The benefits are so few and far between.
| 12:10 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)|
>The benefits are so few and far between.
My bank manager doesn't think so!
| 12:12 pm on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I guess my point was that you can often get good results without PFI on the same engines, but you're right that PFI can be put to good use ;)