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 5:29 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)


Being a very very green newbie i have been grasping a straws trying to do the right things to get me site listed in at least the top 500! :) The site is listed in Inktomi.

I have followed a few pointers by the posts here at webmaster world but still no luck on getting any listing in any engine in any position..

If there's any nice people out there to give me some pointers, i would be most gratefull..

Kind regards


[edited by: heini at 5:40 pm (utc) on Feb. 6, 2003]
[edit reason] no urls please / thanks! [/edit]



 5:44 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi theleveller and welcome to WebmasterWorld!

Hmm that looks like a big question. Lets start with the basics: do you have any links pointing to your site? Do you have listings in doirectories, like the ODP or Yahoo?


 5:53 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)


I have a few links from other sites, and I posted to ODP etc weeks and weeks ago.. I have been using Google adwords for a few months and the same with overture. I have just recently gone for paid inclusion with Temoa & Inktomi.

I think that im either doing somnething terribly wrong with use of my meta tags/keywords and probably just need a reasuring pat on the back..

Every day i think mm shall i change this / that as it may not doing the right thing, (and im wondering if i should leave my keywords/ tags etc alone for a few weeks and check again.

I know its a big q, and i think im heading the right way but to have someone tell me things are ok would be great..




 6:06 pm on Feb 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Do you rank well in Google? The algo is different at Ink but many of the same principles apply.

Also, for both Google and Ink try and gain as many good inbound links as you can.


 6:50 pm on Feb 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

theleveller ...

my experience has shown google and inktomi to be 2 different animals when trying to get good listings ...

you first need to understand that both are software that takes pages, analyzes them and ranks them, according to their secret algorithm ...

Next you need to come up with a list of keywords to target, keywords are nothing more than the searches people will enter at the search engine

go to [overture.com...]

and click on the term suggestion tool, enter credit and you will see all the searches made in december ... including the word credit

pick the most basic keyword relating to your site and then start drilling down to make a list of keywords you want to go after ... once you have a list of keywords you can start targeting your site (or pages) to better match that keyword.

In a nutshell google is like a high school popularity contest where friends are equal to links from other sites

They want you to have lots of friends, but not just any friends ... they give more credit for having the most popular friends ... heini mentioned ODP and Yahoo these are like the homecoming queen and the captain of the football team ... get a link from these sites and you have to be cool ;-)

A good tool to have if you're going to go after google rankings is the google toolbar [toolbar.google.com...]
this toolbar will show you the PageRank of all the sites you visit, PageRank is basically how cool in relation to links (friends) Google thinks the site is ...

send me an email if you need any clarifications or if the links get pulled out of the response



 12:27 pm on Feb 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

"heini mentioned ODP and Yahoo these are like the homecoming queen and the captain of the football team ... "

Love the analogy! That would make Google the Doogie Howser!?! Perhaps...

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