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Must have PFI List
List of paid inclusion search engines/directories
vibgyor79




msg:28872
 9:38 pm on Jan 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is this the complete PFI list? Anything significant to add?

FAST Paid Inclusion

Index Submission: Lycos, AllTheWeb, Excite, Infospace, Webcrawler, Dogpile, Metacrawler, T-online, Looksmart,ItaliaOnLine
How much?: $35 per year
Where/How do I sign up: Lycos Insite Select

Inktomi Paid Inclusion

Index Submission: HotBot, About.com, Overture, MSN, Looksmart, Terra.com, soneraplaza, Goo, Bluewin, Blue Yonder
How much?: $39 per year
Where/How do I sign up: Lycos Insite Select

AltaVista Paid Inclusion

Index Submission: Altavista.com
How much?: $78 per year
Where/How do I sign up: Altavista.com

Yahoo Directory Paid Inclusion

Website Submission: Yahoo Directory
How much?: $300 per year plus $25 per month and above for Sponsored listing
Where/How do I sign up: Yahoo.com

Zeal Directory/Looksmart Inclusion

Website Submission: MSN, Looksmart, About, Altavista, Netscape, InfoSpace, CNET, Zeal
How much?: $49 plus $0.15 per click
Where/How do I sign up: Looksmart.com

 

seth_wilde




msg:28873
 9:54 pm on Jan 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'd also include askjeeves/teoma

[ask.ineedhits.com...]

heini




msg:28874
 9:57 pm on Jan 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nice list, thanks Vibgyor.
With Fast PFI you don't get LS, but some more outlets across Europe, like the Tiscali group, ES backfill, and some more.

Shakil




msg:28875
 10:38 pm on Jan 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

an alternative submission method for Fast and INKtomi is www.positiontech.com

I have not been too impressed withe lycos offering.

ask/teoma via IneedHits.com is also crucial.

Shak

Macguru




msg:28876
 10:44 pm on Jan 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks a lot vibgyor79,

Good contribution.

But it would read better in a 6 rows and 4 columns table. ;)

webdiversity




msg:28877
 12:41 am on Jan 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Can only endorse the list (nice one vibgyor79) and add my voice to the FAST inclusion via Position Tech. You can chose the page and then add to both at the same time. Makes it easier to evaluate the tracking of results over time as well.

Just as a small tip, we also add a tracking URL to the inclusion so we can run web analytics reports on what the visitors do when they arrive from the PFI page by running a "show path from" report. Might be a "sucking eggs" tip for most, but makes it a whole lot easier establishing if any value has been gleaned from the inclusion.

Although you might get 1000 clicks over a year, if the average number of pages viewed is 1 and the average time on the site is 5 seconds.....sure you catch my drift on that one.

Unless AV either introduce some form of tracking facility, an interface like the one from Position Tech then I may well pull the plug on PFI from there, it's by far the most expensive over a year and there is no evidence to indicate it is value for money. Has anyone else felt some love from AV?

makemetop




msg:28878
 12:53 am on Jan 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Teoma returns many times the traffic of AV through PFI. I would pay the money if the traffic were there but (very sadly - because I really wish it were different) it isn't.

vibgyor79




msg:28879
 12:17 pm on Jan 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have not been too impressed withe lycos offering.

my voice to the FAST inclusion via Position Tech.

I don't understand. What is the difference between a Lycos listing and a positiontech listing? I see only a small difference in the listing fee. Is it the stats interface? Is it the customer service? Or is it something else?

deepavs




msg:28880
 8:08 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just as a small tip, we also add a tracking URL to the inclusion so we can run web analytics reports on what the visitors do when they arrive from the PFI page by running a "show path from" report.

Does PositionTech has some kind of special 'tracking url option' or how is it technically done?

Also, where do you run the 'show path from'?
Is it the PositionTech stats software or your own webstats software?

webdiversity




msg:28881
 12:34 am on Feb 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's as simple as adding a?source=inktomi to the end of the submission. You can also add them retrospectively, as long as you are not altering the root domain.

Then in your web analytics software you set up a report to show all of the visitors where that URL (in full) was the entry page. It's important to filter out the visits from the Inktomi spiders otherwise your campaigns get distorted.

This then allows you to check the visits total against Position Tech's and see the paths people follow from that page. If it's not the one you expect, you know you are only every 48 hours away from having another try at getting the route right until you get it working the way you want it.

What is the difference between a Lycos listing and a positiontech listing?

It's primarily the interface and reporting capability. When you manage a lot of inclusions it helps to be able to segregate them and work with them without having to ask for things to be done. Position Tech gives you that facility.

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