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Altavista Removes Email and CEO
Brett_Tabke




msg:24129
 1:40 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Altavista ends free email [searchengineworld.com].

Parent company CMGI also announced the resignation of their ceo [searchengineworld.com]

 

brotherhood of LAN




msg:24130
 3:26 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yet more valuable info found at WWW, better known as webmasterworld ;)

I guess this means in the longer term that Alta Vista should be considered a bigger force in the SE arena?

Moreover, why did they do this? Was it purely to focus on the search engines or were their negative points about running such an email service?

I was thinking about offering email accounts to my users for loyalty, so thats why I mention it

btw side note - someone sticky me plz if they know of a service LIKE bigmailbox that DOESNT pass on information to third parties. Thanks :)

Would be good to hear what people think AV aree going to do inthe long term in regards to SE's

As for the CEO, who cares :) Im sure they are more concerned with a bottom line more so than the atmosphere of the web ;)

rogerd




msg:24131
 4:01 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

That's not good news for those who relied on AV e-mail. A lot of these services signed up users by promising them "an e-mail address that will never change - even if you change ISPs".

Brotherhood, I don't offer free e-mail on any sites, but I'd worry about spammers. If you go to something like that, I'd take appropriate precautions. As far as encouraging return visits, signing up e-mail accounts would do that... but I would think you would need a unique and attractive domain to make it interesting to users. There are plenty of major sites like Yahoo and Hotmail that have well-developed e-mail offerings; I'd guess the only reason people would choose a second tier (no offense intended! :) ) e-mail provider is for "image" purposes. (Kind of like people who get credit cards with a college, church, or sports affiliation.)

gethan




msg:24132
 4:19 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

About 400,000 e-mailboxes maintained by AltaVista will be closed March 31, the company said Tuesday. Only half of those e-mailboxes were actively used, AltaVista said.

That's 200,000 active users who are losing an email address that was "an e-mail address that will never change - even if you change ISPs". - (agreed rogerd)

The very least that altavista could do is forward mail for a year - but I'll be surprised if it shows that much consideration.

Not impressed with AV - yet again.

EliteWeb




msg:24133
 4:56 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

There goes another one of those companies who offers "free email account for life" heheh im gonna have to sue if i keep having to change email accounts due to the companies false advertising ;)

angiolo




msg:24134
 5:44 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

"free email account for life"

It's really true!

Maybe they were reffering to Altavista life...

starec




msg:24135
 5:52 pm on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

> what AV are going to do in the long term

Well, I think they are going to disappear completely in the long term:)

skibum




msg:24136
 6:01 am on Feb 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

by the end of 2002? I'd be really surprised if AV survives as a stand along entity much longer.

jammy




msg:24137
 1:10 pm on Feb 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

but AV UK still offers the email service.

it's a bit like Excite's email:
excite.co.uk told users to use lycos for email, but excite.com (under EMC2) kept the active email accounts.

what free web-based email will stay around?

grnidone




msg:24138
 1:30 pm on Feb 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

How many CEO's has AV gone through in the last couple of years? It seems like this happens on a weekly basis.

mayor




msg:24139
 4:05 pm on Feb 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

It wasn't all that long ago that Alta Vista ended free Internet access.

I hate to see them taking one more step down the ladder.

Only a few short months ago they were the power house of the search world, and the crown jewels of CMGI. Now it looks like they're about to fade off the radar screen ... a shrinking blip disappearing into the abyss that consumed Infoseek/Go and Excite.

I'll bet their paid-inclusion program is one of their last hurrahs. And I'll bet they're finding out that if you ask people to pay, you have to give them their money's worth in traffic in return.

adev




msg:24140
 6:17 pm on Feb 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

> There goes another one of those companies who offers "free email account for life" heheh im gonna have to sue if i keep having to change email accounts due to the companies false advertising

HAHA, think we can make a fortune?:)

minnapple




msg:24141
 4:00 am on Feb 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

< I'll bet their paid-inclusion program is one of their last hurrahs.

I didn't renew mine after it expired. For me, it was a waste of ad $.

bigjohnt




msg:24142
 5:08 pm on Feb 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

AV is on a fast train going nowhere. I'm really "amused" at the fact that every page has the same OV and AV paid submit listings on EVERY SERP. This is annoying, having to scroll down half a page - to find less choices. I for one do not even optimize for AV anymore, and as far as PFI at AV? WHY BOTHER??? Just use OV for CPC, and track it. I submit to AV, that is as far as it goes. AV used to be considered the flagship of CMGI, and a webmaster favorite. Now, its a sinking ship.

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