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Use dummy email addresses for multiple-day submissions?
Do SEs really pay attention to the email address?
Winooski




msg:28725
 3:06 pm on Jan 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

Hi gang. For an SEs like HotBot/Canada.com/Anzwers, when you have many submissions to do by hand and you're spacing them out over many days (say, doing no more than 5 a day), is it better to come up with bogus email addresses each day or just keep using the same address?

I'm already taking steps to disguise my identity, i.e., using a dial-up account to slightly randomize my IP and disabling cookies in my browser, so I wonder if I should be using a different/dummy email address each day.

What's been your experience? Thanks!

 

Jim_Stob




msg:28726
 4:43 pm on Jan 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

Winooski,

There is really no reason to submit to more then one of Inktomi's partners. As with most of the engines, forget the cookies, IP's and false idenity, just make sure your providing quality content and that you stay within their submission limit.

Jim

Winooski




msg:28727
 5:47 pm on Jan 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

Thanks Jim_Stob.

Here's my thinking: it's been documented that SEs like Google can ban sites that are associated with for overuse of WPG's reporter (based on linking the IP address of the person using the software to the URL used in the queries). If Google can do it, so can the Inktomi SEs (and everyone else eventually). So, it's worthwhile to take as many steps to disguise one's identity as possible.

Regarding banning by IP, Susan Goodson, official rep from FirstPlace Software (the makers of WebPosition Gold) wrote in December 2000, "ANY search tool that accesses their [search engines'] database too quickly is causing people to be banned by IP...The best way around it is to get a new IP and limit your searches and spread them out." (http://www.marketpositiontalk.com/forums/Index.cfm?CFApp=11&Message_ID=23032)

For this reason, I've been relying on using a dial-up account to randomize my IP slightly. However, the question still stands: for any site for which I'm doing multiple (deep) submissions, should I vary the email address I supply, or do you think the SEs aren't really paying attention to them. …And if so, why?

C'mon guys, I know you're wrestling with these issues too. How do YOU do it?

Machiavelli




msg:28728
 6:09 pm on Jan 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

Winooski,

Click on a few ads when you're submitting - that'll keep'em happy.
;)

makemetop




msg:28729
 9:00 pm on Jan 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

I stopped submitting to Inktomi partners in September and relied on inbound links. It was slow but worked. Now if I need a page listed quickly I use Positiontech and Slurp is still slowly picking up more and more of my other pages from links.

Jim_Stob




msg:28730
 3:14 am on Jan 12, 2001 (gmt 0)

Winooski,

We make 15,000 to 20,000 submission per day to the 6 or 7 major search engines off of the same IPs. We have never caused any of our clients a spam penalty becuase we adhere to the engine's guidelines. The engines track domains, submit to many URLs from the same domain and you'll have problems. IPs, cookies and e-mail address are not factors which you should be concerned with.

The issue with Google I don't believe was submission related but rather ranking related and probably conected to the IP.

DaveAtIFG




msg:28731
 4:40 pm on Jan 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

Winooski - I always use my real email address. If I ran an engine and wanted or needed to contact someone about a submission and their email bounced, I doubt I'd include their listing.

I always use the same IP too, but I make every effort to limit submissions to each engine's guidlines, each is different. Most SEs include some guidelines in their help files.


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