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Google Glass Story That's Hard To Believe
no way the FBI shows up at a movie theater
lawman

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 5:59 pm on Jan 21, 2014 (gmt 0)

However, an hour into the movie: "A guy comes near my seat, shoves a badge that had some sort of a shield on it, yanks the Google Glass off my face and says 'follow me outside immediately.'"

Outside, he said, was a group of policemen. T.U. says that the man who dragged him out explained he was from the "federal service."

[news.cnet.com...]

 

engine

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 7:00 pm on Jan 21, 2014 (gmt 0)

Well, it's a recording device, and we know how twitchy they can be over copyright and video recordings.

I'm not quite sure why the user would want to wear it in a movie theatre.

It does, however, seem a little heavy-handed.

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 5:55 am on Jan 22, 2014 (gmt 0)

Heavy handed indeed. The natural result of making everything a matter of criminal law - you know the average American commit three felonies a day? I doubt its much better in other developed countries.

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 4:58 pm on Jan 22, 2014 (gmt 0)

average American commit three felonies a day?
I hate being below average. :( I gotta work on that!
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Msg#: 4639015 posted 5:28 pm on Jan 22, 2014 (gmt 0)

I'm holding up my end.

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 5:30 pm on Jan 22, 2014 (gmt 0)

The lines just get more blurred or need shifted as tech changes.

There's a tech that involves putting a microchip on/near the retina/optic nerve for people with eyesight issues... wonder where the law stands if that had a recording capability.

Maybe in 100 years time you'll be allowed to watch a movie if you promise to forget about it in the next 24 hours ;o)

LifeinAsia

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 5:52 pm on Jan 22, 2014 (gmt 0)

forget about it in the next 24 hours ;o)
Already seen a lot of movies like that!
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Msg#: 4639015 posted 5:53 pm on Jan 22, 2014 (gmt 0)

brotherhood of LAN - a lot of the stuff from hollywood is SO bad I want to forget it five minutes after leaving the theater.

As far as the guy in the story. I hope he calls Dewey Cheatum and Howe and files a multi million dollar lawsuit against the theater. (Unless he WAS an active pirate).

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 6:43 pm on Jan 22, 2014 (gmt 0)

i've read stories about how the security services can supposedly listen out of your phone, even when it's not switched on. as long as its still got the battery in it they can use it as a microphone without your knowledge (that's what the clever people say, anyway)

so i wonder if they can do the same kind of thing with google glass?
maybe they can look out of that too, even when it's not switched on. it doesnt have to record anything. all it has to do is transmit the stuff over the internet.

my fridge-freezer made a funny noise the other day as well. so i am suspicious about that now

LifeinAsia

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 6:51 pm on Jan 22, 2014 (gmt 0)

my fridge-freezer made a funny noise the other day as well. so i am suspicious about that now

As well you should be! [webmasterworld.com] :)

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 9:25 pm on Jan 22, 2014 (gmt 0)

...and on the flip side, here's a Google Glass story involving a civil servant who created some useful, potentially life saving, real-world applications for eye-wearable computers --

[mnn.com...]

If there was a fire in that same movie theatre -- the guy with Google Glass could pull up the floor plan, locate the exit, and get out...

matrix_jan



 
Msg#: 4639015 posted 5:32 am on Jan 23, 2014 (gmt 0)

MPAA and ICE admit they yanked an innocent man out of a movie for wearing Google Glass

[boingboing.net...]

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 5:34 am on Jan 23, 2014 (gmt 0)

@LifeinAsia, its because so many things are crimes these days. There is a whole website and a book (called Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent) about it.

One example. A woman in the US was sentenced to two years for accepting an import shipment of lobsters in plastic bags, which was against the law of the exporting country (Honduras) and therefore a breach of the US's Lacey Act.

The scary thing is that it means that, given everyone commits some crimes, it means that the authorities can send anyone to prison if they carry out a sufficiently detailed investigation.

lexipixel

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 10:16 am on Jan 23, 2014 (gmt 0)

A woman in the US was sentenced to two years for accepting an import shipment of lobsters in plastic bags, which was against the law of the exporting country (Honduras)

I read what you wrote, and figured it would be easy to find major media news coverage of such a draconian case... I couldn't.

I did find oddball "freedom from government" blogs and political crackpot posts about getting rid of the Lacey Act to protect American business owners.

So I searched some more -- 'til I found what appears to be the whole truth.

The case was appealed to the Supreme Court, (which refused to review the case), re: ROBERT D. BLANDFORD, ABNER SCHOENWETTER, AND DIANE H. HUANG being charged with illegally importing (smuggling) Caribbean Spiny Lobster tails.

A few choice words, if twisted out of context could make it sound like the lobster being packed in "plastic bags" is the issue ---

"...packed frozen lobsters in bulk plastic bags, and loaded them directly from the lobster boats onto McNab's cargo transport vessel..."

But that's in with listing out how a jury found them guilty of harvesting "approximately 400,000 pounds of spiny lobsters, with a value of approximately $4.6 million" --- undersize lobsters, lobsters bearing eggs, mis-packaged lobster, bypassing Honduran export inspection regulations, and transporting illegal seafood directly to an (American) business owner.

[justice.gov...]

If we didn't have the fishing regulations we have in place now, there would be nothing left -- but yeah, let some "conservatives" do away with the Lacey Act so they can conserve their right to sell every last fish in the ocean as fertilizer, vitamin supplements or cat food.

...next thing these types will say is that Edward Snowden was working for the "the Russians" before he decided to leak info.

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 12:56 pm on Jan 23, 2014 (gmt 0)

You are missing the point.

The problem is not that McNab was convicted - he was operating a fleet in Honduran waters and should have complied with Honduran law (although if you look at the details, the sentence looks excessive).

The problem is that Huang was also convicted, because she bought the lobsters.

The important point is that almost everyone is technically in breach of some criminal law and relies on the government being reasonable about enforcement to stay out of jail.

[threefeloniesaday.com ]

The other thing that is disturbing are the abolition of long standing common law protections such as the requirement of mens rea (intent).

lexipixel

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Msg#: 4639015 posted 6:55 am on Jan 25, 2014 (gmt 0)

"One example. A woman in the US was sentenced to two years for accepting an import shipment of lobsters in plastic bags"


You are missing the point.


I don't agree with the point, or anything else on the website you cited -- I doubt many people commit (3) felonies any day.. never mind every day.

He writes, "for accepting an import shipment of lobsters in plastic bags" --- that's a pretty far stretch from the truth -- but the website is a lawyer who's trying to sell his own books -- nuff said?

She was sentenced for being part of an an going wildlife smuggling conspiracy involving 400,000 LBS of lobster over the course of 5 years where they'd pay Honduran fisherman $0.10/lb (US) for garbage bags full of undersize lobsters, females with the swimmerets cut off and eggs scraped out. They knew what they were buying (since they also hid the tonage of lobster by importing about the same amount of legal lobster from Honduras).... The stuff in those "plastic bags" should have been thrown back to protect the lobster population (and future fisheries).

She was paid off repeatedly over the course of 5 years for her part. It looks like she was low man on the totem pole, and her sentence and fines reflected her part in the case.

There is a whole website and a book (called Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent) about it.


The site is an advertorial for the book. The link here should be removed.

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